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oldie meme but needed to bring this back due to recent incidents 😭

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 4 days ago (1 children)

how dare you say we piss on the poor

[–] [email protected] 5 points 4 days ago (3 children)

i never said that! i only piss on the MOON

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[–] [email protected] 27 points 4 days ago

Bravery is leaving both the ifunny and imgflip watermarks.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 4 days ago

Equally common, unfortunately, is people who don't state their point, they just lay out the pieces and expect you to put it together, but then if you say something bad about it suddenly that's "not what I said". Schrodinger's point.

I've developed a response to comments that do this saying-it-but-not-saying-it thing, and while I try to judge sincerity, there are false positives. An okay approach I've found is just to ask people to clarify: if they say something reasonable they're genuine, and if they dodge the question they're a troll or someone who doesn't want to admit they believe something bad.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 4 days ago (2 children)

One time I said AI porn was unethical (because it is) and people here thought I was calling for a ban on all porn. At no point did I say that porn was unethical as a rule, and if I did believe that I wouldn't have mentioned AI at all.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 4 days ago (2 children)

It'd be nice if we could regulate porn in good faith. Every attempt to regulate it in the US has been an obvious attempt to shut it down, but it should be regulated like anything else. Sex toys, too. Lots of questionable substances are used in sex toys that probably shouldn't be inserted into the human body.

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 4 days ago (6 children)

this shit pisses me off, my instinct is to say irrationally, but i feel it’s probably totally rational to have your own carefully chosen words used in such a hamfisted perversion

yesterday i made a post saying “hey look there’s a pattern to how ableist terms begin as descriptive or medical terms and its only later they are coopted as insults, the most recent of which is ‘neurodivergent’”

top comment? “dude stop telling us to stop using the word ‘neurodivergent.’” 30+ upvotes. and when i respond saying that actually making people abandon the word wasn’t my goal? downvotes.

like what even is the point of writing words if crusty ass debate lords insist on interpretation to mean the exact opposite 80% of the time?

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[–] [email protected] 46 points 4 days ago (1 children)

-"Russia should not invade a sovereign country, murder its citizens and deport their children."

-"Umm, actually, the US were doing crimes in Syria and you should not support them."

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 days ago (2 children)

But by contrast

"We need to negotiate an end to the war on Ukraine."

"Oh so you want to let Russia kill all Ukrainians?"

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 days ago (2 children)

Bruh, it's so real. I made a comment that whenever I get messed up food at a restaurant, id rather just ask for a refund than ask for a replacement. Obviously there's a lot of nuance in this comment, but I had people taking all kinds of meanings from it. One guy told me I was a complete asshole and some other stuff, just because I'd rather have a refund at the McDonald's instead of asking the overworked, underpaid employees to remake my order as I sat in the drive-through, and so I wouldn't have to pull over and wait even longer.

People just want to be pissed off and angry.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 4 days ago (2 children)

just because I'd rather have a refund at the McDonald's instead of asking the overworked, underpaid employees to remake my order

Except what you actually said was if you ask for a replacement they're going to spit in it, so you just threaten them with a charge back if they don't refund you.

https://lemmy.ca/comment/13396935

The fact that you are lying about what you said seems to indicate you understand why you may have come off as an asshole.

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 4 days ago

And some are just trolling, that sounds like you were trolled.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 4 days ago

While I don't want to deny that people try to put words into others mouths, I think context is still important. It is possible and even quite typical to send messages beyond the meaning of the actual words used in a statement and simply playing dumb when someone calls you out for doing that is also not a great look.

Think of going to a waffles-convention and just walking around claiming that you, in fact, like pancakes. Of course people are going to assume you're a troll.

It's important to think of different perspectives and at least consider if something you meant in a very innocent way might still not sit right with someone else. Certainly not easy to do, mistakes will always happen, but honestly trying makes a huge difference imo.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 days ago (2 children)
[–] [email protected] 5 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

Oh so you hate minorities too?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 days ago (1 children)

I hate pancakes and who likes it is a moron!!

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 days ago (1 children)

I see we're missing the point of the post

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[–] [email protected] 11 points 4 days ago

That’s French toast erasure.

[–] [email protected] 31 points 4 days ago (1 children)

On Lemmy it's more like:

"I don't like pancakes."

"Oh, so I suppose that waffles are perfect huh??"

[–] [email protected] 36 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Nah, it’s more like “you should delete windows now and get Linux”

[–] [email protected] 24 points 4 days ago (2 children)

I agree that conversations sometimes end up being about Linux, which is unfortunate. People seldom recommend installing BSD or other free systems, which is a shame. The lesson here is that we should all install OpenBSD.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 4 days ago (2 children)
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[–] [email protected] 20 points 4 days ago (1 children)

I like to insult and block these people. My fear of course, with Lemmy being so small, is I will block everyone. Then again, that's still better than dealing with illiterate, contrarian assholes

[–] [email protected] 13 points 4 days ago (2 children)

I feel the same way, then I look at my blocklist and it's just lemmy.ml, anime subs, 3 people, some political terms, and a bot. I also have a .world account I use when I want to view the whole Lemmy experience anyways. Tbh I still feel kinda bad about blocking .ml, there was some cool peeps on there but I just can't deal with all the tankie drama

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 days ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 days ago (1 children)

I use Voyager (mobile app), I have no idea if you can on desktop but I would assume so.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 days ago

Thanks for the tip. I have Voyager, I didn't realize you could use it like that.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 4 days ago

I also blocked ml, it just ain't worth it. I figure the cool people will eventually leave for another instance anyways

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