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The 2024 US presidential election had been widely characterized as one of the most consequential political contests in recent US history. Although turnout was high for a presidential election – almost matching the levels of 2020 – it is estimated that close to 90 million Americans, roughly 36% of the eligible voting age population, did not vote. This number is greater than the number of people who voted for either Donald Trump or Kamala Harris.

More than a month on from polling day, eligible US voters from across the country as well as other parts of the world got in touch with the Guardian to share why they did not vote.

Scores of people said they had not turned out as they felt their vote would not matter because of the electoral college system, since they lived in a safely blue or red state. This included a number of people who nonetheless had voted in the 2020 and 2016 elections.

While various previous Democratic voters said they had abstained this time due to the Harris campaign’s stance on Israel or for other policy reasons, a number of people in this camp said they would have voted for the vice-president had they lived in a swing state.

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[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 week ago (4 children)

Pivoting from Biden to Harris guaranteed a Trump victory.

We need a replacement for the democrat party.

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[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 week ago

In the USA, How you vote is private. If you voted is public.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 week ago

Well, they may have actual made it so about what they fear about their vote “not counting” by putting the fascists in power

[–] [email protected] 20 points 1 week ago

I live in a blue state but that doesn't mean I'd be justified in believing that I should sit it out. Even if that insane logic about not needing to was valid, there's other shit on the ballot. And even if my vote for or abstaining against an uncontested incumbent is irrelevant, there's still ballot measures that need to be understood.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (3 children)

All I got from this is that Democrats, progressives, and Americans are fucking absolutely stupid regardless of education level.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Why are you lumping progressives in with them?

Trump won 2 presidencies because democrats actively work against progressive agendas which would actually benefit regular people.

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Non voters are almost as dumb as the trump people.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)

Not really. There's substantial evidence to indicate that voting does not significantly impact policy.

I think people like you are just grasping at straws to avoid admitting that you put your faith in a failing process.

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[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 week ago

Yeah, I feel like this last election was an awakening for me of exactly how stupid, selfish and ignorant this country is on average. This country is just dumb as shit and proud of it.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 week ago

The left is dealing Left-out. And journalism standards are very low.

[–] [email protected] 33 points 1 week ago (1 children)

One guy said this “VP Harris failed to demonstrate she was ethically or intellectually capable of executing the office, repeatedly failing to detail out her policies..." It's infuriating that people continue to believe Harris never detailed her policies despite the fact that all she talked about was policy. All they had to do was pay attention to her and she would talk about her policies, it seems like they just didn't want to even pay attention to her. Or that because she didn't detail alllll of her policies then that wasn't enough. Add on that this person calls her intellectually incapable of talking about her policies, basically calling her stupid and it's just exhausting.

This whole article continues to make me believe in the fundamental problem with Democrat voters which so many people have shown. The democrats have to run the perfect candidate with the perfect policies or the charisma of Obama who promise the world, while the Republicans can run a guy who says immigrants are eating cats and dogs and because the Democratic candidate wasn't perfect, the Republicans win.

And then when the Democrats do promise signficant change and it doesn't immediately happen, Democrat voters punish them for it, they lose the midterms, and any change that was in the process of happening gets stopped dead. But when Republicans promise the world and don't deliver, Republican voters reward them for simply promising it.

"Democrats fall in love, Republicans fall in line."

[–] [email protected] 21 points 1 week ago

Institutional vs anti institutional. Dems are institutional and the institution sucks. Trump is a sledgehammer. He promised alot of sledgehammering. Not good, but that's irrelevant. The Dems need to stop protecting the broken system of neo liberal economics that fucking Regan invented and chasing the phantom center right vote.

Aka. swing left or die.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

It looks like the "they're both the same" disinformation from the hexbear side of the internet made a pretty strong impression. I'm not going to call it determinative by any means but it put some weight on the scale.

I think attempting to court Never Trump voters and Haley voters was penalty the biggest mistake. They could've spent that time and energy trying to win workers, getting their messaging to be more "real person" instead of focus grouped.

Like, the real solution was for Biden not to run for re-election at least, and at most to resign in February 2023 or right after signing the Infrastructure Law or chips.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 week ago

Its not disinformation to say the obvious, that people are completely dissatisfied with the Democratic Party's ineptitude and corruption. They blatantly refuse to listen to the will of their voting base. I can also guarantee nowhere near 90 million eligible voters were influenced in any way by hexbear or related sites. Those users were just telling you what you refused to listen to. That the democratic party needs to change its tactics and stop their shady money laundering and pandering to corporate interests and ruthless support of imperialism, or they wont win. But keep blaming some random internet forum, and palestinians, and anybody but the ones who made the actual decisions during the election. Decisions that alienated tens of millions of eligible voters.

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