Character dot AI continues to be contemptible.
https://lite.cnn.com/2024/12/10/tech/character-ai-second-youth-safety-lawsuit/index.html
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I ended up on Know Your Meme because folks are throwing around TPOT like we're all terminally online and all understand Twitter lingo.
For anyone else confused: that part of Twitter. It's techbro "phillosophists" like Peter Thiel.
yeah, TPOT is specifically the uwu smol bean neoreactionary race scientists
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Good that you explain it, lot of people here are basically amateur TPOT/lesswrong watchers so we forget this isn't standard lingo. If you have ever seen us post about eigenrobot that is part of tpot iirc.
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your regular reminder that the guy with de facto ownership over the entire Rust ecosystem outside of the standard library and core is very proud about being in Peter Thiel’s pocket (and that post is in reference to this article)
e: on second thought I’m being unfair — he owns the conferences and the compiler spec process too
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Unsure where to put this or if it's even slightly relevant, but I've had some fun looking up the UH shooter guy.
I think I've found both his Reddit account and YouTube channel (it's been renamed a couple times). Kinda just wanted to see how much I could dig up for the hell of it. Big surprise that he's completely nuts
He got raked over the coals for this: https://www.reddit.com/r/collapse/comments/126vycx/why_scientists_cant_be_trusted/
https://api.pullpush.io/reddit/search/comment/?author=burntbabylon
Friends don't let friends OSINT. That said... people have found his twitter (still up), goodreads (deleted), github (still up, already full of troll github issues), linkedin (I guess deleted), an interview about has school games club (deleted), his game development studio which published one iphone game (facebook profile deleted).
His twitter account links to his linktree, but that only contains some inscrutable emoji rather than any links so hasn't really been reported:
💻🤓 - 🥷🏃♂️🧘♂️🏋️ - 📚🤓 - 🦍🧠 - 🍄🧠 - 🐄👨⚖️ - ☯️
(I'm sure his inevitable groupies will be puzzling over the meaning of cow judge for years to come)
The youtube page you found is less talked about, though a reddit comment on one of them said "anyone else thinking burntbabylon is Luigi?". I will point out that the rest of his online presence doesn't really paint him as "anti tech" overall, but who can say.
NYTimes also reports a steam account, facebook account, and instagram account (couldn't find any of these).
https://www.nytimes.com/2024/12/09/nyregion/uhc-suspect-video-games.html
Other NYTimes articles are now investigating his health issues (back surgery, etc)
Friends don’t let friends OSINT
i can stop any time I want ^I^ ^swear^
The youtube page you found is less talked about, though a reddit comment on one of them said “anyone else thinking burntbabylon is Luigi?”. I will point out that the rest of his online presence doesn’t really paint him as “anti tech” overall, but who can say.
apparently there was an imposter youtube channel too I missed
not sure what his official instagram is, but I saw a mention of the instagram account @nickakritas_ around the beginning of his channel (assuming it's his). didn't appear in the internet archive though.
also saw these twitter & telegram links to promote his channel, the twitter one was deleted or nuked (I use telegram to talk with friends who have it but the lack of content removal + terrible encryption means I don't touch unknown telegram links with a 10ft pole, so I have no idea what's in there):
- https://twitter.com/AntiTechCabin
- https://t.me/antitechcabin
I missed a couple videos which survived on the internet archive but I couldn't make it through 5 seconds of any of them. one of them ("How Humans Are Becoming Dumber") cites that tech priest guy Gwern Branwen and "Anti-Tech" was gone from the channel name by then. he changed the channel name a lot so maybe he veered away from it being an anti-tech channel?
- Nick Akritas (around January 2023)
- Anti-Tech Cabin
- AntiTechCabin, but he changed the handle to @Cabin_Club during a short transitory period
- Cabin Club (around March 18th 2023)
- Cabin Productions
- Laconian (lasted until November 2023)
Speaking of imposters, there's a screenshot of a fake manifesto substack post (since deleted) which has been linked a couple times on reddit.
The only problem is it was first published to substack over four hours after the arrest was reported according to the post's own json-ld metadata. People be trying to stir things up.
Amatuers. Can't even publish the post early and edit it later for that extra bit of plausible deniability.
Can’t even publish the post early and edit it later for that extra bit of plausible deniability.
Fun detail from bsky, check the date https://bsky.app/profile/ieonardodavinci.bsky.social/post/3l7bs2gev6s2w
I swear, kids today have no respect for the dedication and craft that go into a proper disinformation campaign. Back in my day half this metadata wasn't nearly as easy to access without viewing page source and we still put in the effort to try and confuse the four guys who knew where to look.
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If this isn't a troll, then it's someone in dire need of psychological help.
redhatfilm:
leaning toward the latter.
On the third day of OpenAI my true ~~love~~ enemy gave to me ~~three french hens~~ Sora.
The version of Sora we are deploying has many limitations. It often generates unrealistic physics and struggles with complex actions over long durations.
"12 days of OpenAI" lol. Such marketing.
Big eye roll to this part too:
We’re introducing our video generation technology now to give society time to explore its possibilities and co-develop norms and safeguards that ensure it’s used responsibly as the field advances.
It's half-assed on purpose, and that's a good thing! We swear!
Credit where it's due to the writer who somehow polished that filthy turd. You can almost believe it's the normal sort of deceptive marketing.
So it turns out the healthcare assassin has some.... boutique... views. (Yeah, I know, shocker.) Things he seems to be into:
- Lab-grown meat
- Modern architecture is rotten
- Population decline is an existential threat
- Elon Musk and Peter Thiel
How soon until someone finds his LessWrong profile?
the absolute state of american politics: rentseeker ceo gets popped by a libertarian
We should expect more of this to come. The ascendant right wing is pushing policies that only deliver for people who are already stinking rich. Even if 99% of those who vote that way go along with the propaganda line in the face of their own disappointment, that's still a lot of unhappy people, who are not known for intellectual consistency or calm self-reflection, in a country overflowing with guns. All it takes is one ammosexual who decides that his local Congressman has been co-opted by the (((globalists))), you know?
also, killing CEOs is more of traditional activity of more ideologically consistent far left groups, like RAF. can't have shit in late capitalism
RAF's aims were explicitely accelerationist - their terror would provoke a ferocious repressional response that would open the eyes of the masses to the repressive government and trigger a revolution.
there's gotta be many more than 1% of right to far-right wingers clocking that that ambient suckiness is result of republican policies or profit squeezing, it's just that i expected them to be way more apathetic
qanon and weird nazis were around for some time and they definitely can get worse, but i don't think it's it
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StRev was calling him TPOT adjacent and woodgrains was having a bit of a panic over it.
It's so embarrassing to watch upper-middle class (at best!) rationalists get their panties in a twist over Luigi. At least the right wing talking heads are getting paid, these guys are just mad he did things instead of tweeting about things.
"Our righteous warriors are only supposed to kill brown people and women, not captains of industry!!"
tfw the Holy Book (Atlas Shrugged) was misinterpreted.
According to his goodreads he had not read it yet.
dust specks vs CEOs
Thats a very real viewpoint being pushed by the Thiel adjacent far righters.
"My heavens, our self-regarding supremacist ideology can't possibly imply violence... can it???"
Do you have a link? I'm interested. (Also, I see you posted something similar a couple hours before I did. Sorry I missed that!)
https://x.com/tracewoodgrains/status/1866197443404247185
https://x.com/st_rev/status/1866191524498719147
Sorry for not using nitter but im on phone.
this guy nailing the UHC CEO is the only good thing they will ever have a chance of claiming credit for, so of course they rush to disavow him
From the replies:
I see the interest in AI, Peter Thiel, and the far future, but it's a lot more rationality adjacent than EA.
"It's a lot more country than western"
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lol that's exquisite
but you could tell the guy was into Effective Altruism from how he did dust specks vs CEOs
TWG: is a good reminder that atrocities don’t come from convenient avatars of all I oppose
Random bluecheck: On the contrary, this just reaffirms my biases that e/accs and AGI race-promoters are the source of every bad thing in the world.
TWG: was he e/acc?
We are in the 'he only followed some e/acc, he never said he was e/acc' phase. Wonder what his manifesto will say.
this whole exchange is so beautiful i love these stupid fucking idiots WHY ARE THEY EVERYWHERE
That conversation reads like from a variation of Mafia/Werewolf where you have to figure out who in your circle of rationalists is secretly e/acc and wants to build the torment nexus.
The man who hypes up that higher intelligences can figure out laws and rules from data quicker and more thoroughly than lower intelligences defending e/acc accounts by going 'well they never openly advocated for killing, so this is not a valid concern'. Did he forget he advocated for bombing datacenters? Guess he never read any science fiction where '"rational" leader accidentally inspires murderous cult', By The God Emperor, somebody should write a science fiction novel about that.
bwahahaha "most reasonable operationalizations; conditional upon being e/acc." Why does this person make me think of nasal, vaguely whiny prequel Spock?
"Tensor Templar" lmao. Hey buddy, what did the Knights Templar do, besides banking?
Hopefully it elaborates on whatever the fuck this is:
Modern Japanese urban environment is an evolutionary mismatch for the human animal.
The solution to falling birthdates isn’t immigration. It’s cultural.
Encourage natural human interaction, sex, physical fitness and spirituality:
- ban Tenga fleshlights and “Japan Real Hole” custom pornstar pocket pussies being sold in Don Quixote grocery stores
- replace conveyor belt sushi and restaurant vending machine ordering, with actual human interaction with a waiter
- replace 24/7 eSports cafes where young males earn false fitness signals via Tekken fighting and Overwatch shooting games, with athletics in school
- heavily stigmatize maid cafes where lonely salarymen pay young girls to dress as anime characters and perform anime dances for them
- revitalize traditional Japanese culture (Shintoism, Okinawan karate, onsen, etc)
If we couldn't react with "wake up babe, new copypasta just dropped" or "tag yourself, I'm the false fitness signal in the maid café", we couldn't react to a lot of life.
i thought for some time now that problems with japanese society are things like stifling conformism, ridiculous degree of nationalism and sexism, how they are functionally an one-party state or stiff strictly hierarchial relationships that appear out of nowhere the entire time. but yeah definitely this seed oils level of conspiracy thinking is accepted truth on eacc twitter
it also sounds extremely specific
being performatively worried about Japanese birth rates is a HN trope, for whatever that's worth
being performatively worried about maid cafes specifically is absolutely a new one on me
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I dont know enough about Japan, but is it just me or is that a very specific fleshlight gripe? E: yes, I guess, this means I'm tagging myself as the fleshlight or something.
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