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Windows 11 is not that bad in the sense that a lot of its anti features are in Windows 10 now. With some work you can make it functional.
With that being said, Linux. By the time I spend trying to make Windows work I might as well use something that respects my freedom.
Filthy Windowses!
Don't worry, they'll drop 12 soon to make people prefer 11
ME ??
That wasn't a good OS either...
Why do you want people to use Linux? Its a OS with a completely different philosophy, most people don't care about FOSS.
Because more market share means more fucks to give from companies that make stuff we use.
But it also means more people will try to introduce malware and exploits.
Not saying that hardware makers giving a single fuck about linux would be a bad thing, but rather than a sudden huge increase in desktop linux usage doesn't sound as good to me as if it happens with time.
Security through minority is not a best practice. More support would also lead to hardened security even if it becomes a more lucrative target.
That's why I said it a sudden huge increase in its usage doesn't sound as good to me as if it happens with time.
Yeah, just like how Netflix's rule changes was going to get everyone to turn to piracy. In reality, their subscription numbers skyrocketed, just like how new Windows PC sales will in 10 months.
~~2020 2021 2022 2023 2024~~ 2025 !!!
Again?
To put this in perspective, it fell by 0.48%
Windows 10 grew by 0.89%
Linux actually dropped by 0.26% in that same period.
Not that I'd be too concerned about any of that, because that's all data from reported OS in website visits, so all those are well within the margin of error.
While I love Linux and wish more people would switch over, I know damn well most people just want to keep using Windows. The people who REALLY want Linux will find it.
Right now I've been offering my friends n family who don't want Win11 two options.
I help them get started using Linux.
Or I show them how to get the IoT LTSC branch of Win10 that'll still get security updates until at the latest 2032.
Most of them including the more tech savy folks just want to keep Win10 with updates, Some have opted to try Linux on a dual boot but few have stuck with it.
A few questions since you seem to know much more about this than I can probably even find from searching:
I'm no expert by any means but.
The the LTSC branch of windows is the enterprise version Microsoft sell only to businesses that require less flashy feature and longer security support since most business don't update machines frequently. IOT just seems to be the LTSC version with the longest supported update cycle.
It's slightly less bloated at least the Win10 version doesn't come with pre-installed games and didn't even have the Microsoft store installed by default. It still comes with telemetry but heard some say online they've had an easier time disabling it and keeping it disabled on the LTSC versions.
It's "free" as in a sandwich you find on the side of the road is free. Microsoft REALLY doesn't want regular users using their business only services but people always find a way.
It's really only for people who currently refuse Linux but also can't/won't upgrade to Windows 11. I'm only suggesting it because I'd rather people at least still get security updates than use a completely unsupported OS.
We've been through this before.
When Windows dropped most 32 bit support, desktop Linux had a chance just like this, but it didn't happen then either. Unless some distro becomes a perfect 1:1 replacement for Windows on all hardware, with no changes in installation procedure. (including when it's purchased) as well as: All software must run not only perfectly, but exactly the same, with everything from installation to every moment of use exactly the same, otherwise people will use Windows unpatched, or go out and buy new hardware.
In my opinion, the year of Linux on the desktop will only come when the desktop is abandoned, and it is no longer a commonly used platform.
Yes, it's bleak, but we've been down this road before. Unless a distro becomes perfect, no significant change will come.
Scoop up that hardware being discarded, install your favorite distro (because you will be supporting it) and give it away to someone to learn Linux. There will never be a mass exodus, just install, educate, and chip away 1 user at a time.
Even if there was a perfect drop in replacement it wouldn't change anything. People bitch and moan about windows all of the time but the reason they use it is bc that's what came with their laptop.
Reinstalling a new OS is the biggest problem, people will learn how to do things but they won't go out of their way to do it.
Given this explanation, I am amazed I was able to use an iPad after having an android tablet. I had to pick new apps! Relearn the settings! In a different hardware!
I'm honestly proud of myself. Thanks.
But which Desktop?
Steam OS?
Of course we all have our preferences and personal history with these things, but I think we can all agree that most preconfigured Debian, Ubuntu, Fedora and openSUSE ISOs with popular desktops are already more sensible and simple than the mess that is "searching for a setting in Windows".
Whether it's GNOME, KDE, Cinnamon, Budgie, Mate, XFCE, LXQt.
Compared to Windows, every Linux desktop is a blessing. Even that one that you personally don't like or had a bad experience with.
I think the year of the Linux desktop is imminent, assuming you consider Chrome OS Linux. :/
Chrome OS is being replaced.
With Android no less
While people don't want to move onto Windows 11, I recently saw a fricking Vista on a local office supply store.
I've seen brand new installs of XP. An ancient process works there, so if they need a new deployment, XP it is.
No internet and minimum user interaction though
It's really fine if they have no access to internet. They probably have their software that works fine with it, and probably won't work on newer OSes. There is an airport that still uses Win 3.1 on some computers, don't recall the name though.
Funny thing is, XP still appears on Windows market share.
Windows 10 LTSC IoT is supported til the end of 2031, maybe 2032 will be the year I finally switch.
If you're the type of person that can acquire and run LTSC, aren't you exactly the kind of person that has the ability to switch to Linux?
Being able != being willing.
I've tried several times over the years, I always run into too many issues before I just give up because USB aren't recognizing things or it won't boot or it won't run some specific software after 2 hours of trying to fix it. My last attempt on a dev laptop in 2022 lasted the longest, Maybe it'll be sorted out in 2032 though.
Of course, there are always small issues that can make it a little harder. When most hardware is designed first and exclusively to run Windows, there will always be issues to be resolved.
I made a mistake though. You never advocated for anyone else to take the LTSC route, and that's that I incorrectly read out of your message. My apologies. I usually take issue with people saying that's a solution for other people. You never advocated that. Sorry.
They're definitely the kind of person who's saavy enough to make their own decisions
Yes, precious.
We wants it!
Sadly almost every average user will most likely just use windows 10 past the end and won't bother doing anything and eventually just buy new PC in few years. Also some stuff just can't be done on Linux for work, not that it can't be done but had problems with people not being able to open the files that were made on Linux libre office. But personally I'll switch to Linux for safety and try to make it daily driver.
I have solved my work problem by using the online versions of MS office and SharePoint. The desktop versions are just emulated web apps these days anyway. I have only seen MS Project (which sucks anyway) and Excel having features I needed once or twice on the desktop version vs the online version.
Try OnlyOffice it's basically indistinguishable from Microsoft Office, and available as a flatpak
It has been near for the past 15 years.
Its getting nearerer!
It's the nearestest it's ever been !!!!11