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In the space of 1 week, a second open-source Chinese AI model equals the best investors are pouring tens of billions of dollars into. (lemm.ee)

submitted 3 weeks ago by [email protected] to c/[email protected]

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cross-posted from: https://futurology.today/post/2910566

Alibaba's Qwen team just released QwQ-32B-Preview, a powerful new open-source AI reasoning model that can reason step-by-step through challenging problems and directly competes with OpenAI's o1 series across benchmarks.

The details:

QwQ features a 32K context window, outperforming o1-mini and competing with o1-preview on key math and reasoning benchmarks.

The model was tested across several of the most challenging math and programming benchmarks, showing major advances in deep reasoning.

QwQ demonstrates ‘deep introspection,’ talking through problems step-by-step and questioning and examining its own answers to reason to a solution.

The Qwen team noted several issues in the Preview model, including getting stuck in reasoning loops, struggling with common sense, and language mixing.

Why it matters: Between QwQ and DeepSeek, open-source reasoning models are here — and Chinese firms are absolutely cooking with new models that nearly match the current top closed leaders. Has OpenAI’s moat dried up, or does the AI leader have something special up its sleeve before the end of the year?

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Qwen is super powerful but the CCP endorsed lobodomy to censor it make it useless for my needs. Mistral 22B > qwen 32B all day any day just because it won't shriek at me in rejection when I ask the wrong question.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 weeks ago

Surprisingly asking about Jack Ma's resignation didn't stop it, it mentioned that he was allegedly forced to step down for political reasons. When I probed further on what these were it didn't error but did randomly switch to Chinese at one point in the answer.

It's very verbose compared to any other AI I've used. Not necessarily all great but there's some good parts in the responses. I'm more curious how it was trained behind the great firewall.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

It's not fair to describe the western models as "closed". All the tech bros have a open-source ethic that would embarrass a FOSS developer. At least when it comes to training data.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 3 weeks ago

Har har. "I just took it, you can have it too."

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