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A Community about large, cheaply built, suburban homes with design flaws and a lack of architectural integrity also known as “McMansions.” On Thursdays we celebrate the opposite: good suburban architectural design.

Based off the famous subreddit r/mcmansionhell, we will essentially do all the same here, as is over there. Please do your best and crosspost if you need too!

We need mods!! Please please help!

A Short Guide

Friends at c/badrealestate!

Here are the rules:

  1. Posts can be about ugly houses in general
  2. Post appropriately and with correct tags WITHIN the title so it is easy to search. -->Tags: "Thursday Design Appreciation" or "HouseTDA", "Just Ugly", "Shitpost", "Certified McMansion™", "Discussion/Debate", and "Interior" are available.
  3. All post subjects must be single family homes -->Only post suburban, single family homes. No apartments or duplexes, etc. The community is focused on specifically traditional suburban architecture.
  4. Don't post addresses or other easily identifiable information unless it is publicly listed. -->Keep the information about the property you are posting basic and general. However, if the home is listed on a public website you are permitted to post a link to the public listing.
  5. Direct Images Only, no links please. -->Post correctly cropped, direct images and not links to websites. Image hosting links, such as Imgur, are an exception, but we still prefer a direct image. Zillow house page, for example, is ok if it directly links to the photos and such.
  6. No Spam -->No posting an excessive amount in a row on the same day or posting the same comment on several posts at once. We have seen it, we just didn't react to it. Please understand that.
  7. No Screenshots -->Crop your photos correctly.
  8. Thursday is special. To celebrate that, you can post nice houses you appreciate.

Helpful links:

Kate Wagner's Guide to McMansions

Architectural Guides

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While everyone has their own opinion on what makes a true McMansion, there are several defining features or attributes that should be looked for to determine if a home fits the McMansion criteria. This post will serve as a guide to help users determine if they should use the "Certified McMansion" TAG THE TITLE on their submission and to learn more about what a McMansion is. This guide will be edited as needed to make sure it fully explains the accepted properties of a McMansion.

Basic Principles of a McMansion:

-Large: Generally above 2500 square feet and two story or more, sometimes way too big for the lot it sits on.

-Built Cheap: They are built by cutting corners and using less than quality materials because they focus on getting as much size and appearance of wealth as possible from their money. It's the illusion of class that might fool the average person who doesn't have a sense of architectural integrity. McMansions will often use materials such as stucco, manufactured stone veneer, Styrofoam crown molding, or vinyl siding.

-Fit Several Styles: They fit multiple styles of architecture by mashing together different elements from the individual styles in a distasteful manner. They also might poorly imitate a popular style.

-Exterior After-Thought: They are designed with a focus on the interior first and the exterior is done as an after-thought which often results in features such as jutting masses and haphazardly placed windows.

-Lacks Architectural Integrity: The house makes you confident that there was no licensed architect involved in its creation who cares about what they design

Specific Features To Look For:

-An attached 2 or 3 car garage

-A garage that takes up way too much of what is considered the house

-Tall 1.5-2 story arched entry or "lawyer foyer"

-Haphazardly applied dormers or windows

-Windows of varying shapes/sizes/styles

-Windows not aligned with those below them

-Second story windows that are larger than the windows below them

-Window shutters that if closed would not cover the actual window

-Jutting masses or heavily asymmetrical

-Multiple wall materials

-Roof that contains varying slopes, roof types, or more than two roof shapes for the front facade

-Roof nub

-Roof with excessive roof lines and is in general just too complex

-Dormers that are way too short, way too tall, don't match the rest of the house materials or style, or are placed terribly/spaced unevenly

-Columns that don't support anything or are too thin/weak looking to support what they are appearing to support aka columns with inappropriate scaling

-Columns with spacing that is over complicated or messy

-Columns that are the incorrect architectural style for the house

Some Links To Check Out:

The Original McMansionHell Web Blog by Kate Wagner

Kate Wagners Guide to McMansions

History of the McMansion by Kate Wagner

I copied this from the original subreddit, haha. But, still, I'll make edits to this in the coming weeks until we reach a near final guide post on McMansions. If you have any suggestions for what we could add to this guide, comment below or send me a message.

Side note: the first "Appreciation Thursday" is coming up! Don't forget to prepare a suburban home that you think deserves recognition as the opposite of a McMansion and post it on 7/16 with the "Thursday Design Appreciation" tag.

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