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West was 'overly optimistic' about Ukraine in 2023: NATO commander (english.almayadeen.net)

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Ukraine's Western allies were “overly optimistic" about the war in 2023 and assumed that providing Kiev with the required ammunition and training would lead to victory, chief of the NATO Military Committee Admiral Rob Bauer told the Financial Times on Sunday. ...

For now, the West’s plan is to “keep the Ukrainian military from collapsing".

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 8 months ago

I'm not entirely sure howmany of the politicians in america actually believe their propaganda about ukrainian heroes and democracy and stuff and howmany are neocons wishing to deal a blow against russia

[–] [email protected] 0 points 8 months ago (1 children)

assumed that providing Kiev with the required ammunition and training would lead to victory

I actually do not believe this for a second. My understanding is that the actual higher ups wanted to engage Russia in a war regarding of the outcome plus the ammunition/training part is just the military industry enriching itself. If anything, I think they were actually overly optimistic about Russia turning into a sort of an international pariah and the effectiveness of the sanctions imposed on them, both of which did not pan out at all.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 8 months ago

Yeah, I'm sure capital didn't care about what the outcome for Ukraine would be. But as you say, it certainly did care about what the outcome for Russia was - the West has been dreaming for decades of a Balkanized, subservient Russia. And anything that got it closer to that would be considered a victory.