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[โ€“] [email protected] 18 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago) (3 children)

So in recent weeks I've learned that furries are a lot more shunned than I thought, and it's one of those things like Bronies where it's not the subject of their obsession but the enthusiasm they have for the subject of their fandom.

I grew up with Disney and Warner Brothers classics, read the Albedo comic anthology and a few others, but don't see myself as a furry enthusiast (contrast my enthusiasm for late 20th century are we the real monsters? science fiction). Furry porn and furry-themed sex fantasies aren't particularly my scene, but this is true for the majority of furries as well.

But our society has gotten weird about furries and anthros, which I guess became evident when the US right-wing started spreading the litter-boxes in schools canard. Curiously, in the porn media community, animal genital shapes are a controversy, and mainstream media platforms that sell furry porn will not allow for anthros with canine or equine genitals. I think VISA specifically will not allow transactions for such works, which is stunning interventionism both in its overreach and specificity.

And then some social media sites have special rules for furry content, that even SFW furry content can only appear inside furry-inclusive perimeters... unless it's classical like Warner or Hanna Barbara. Wikipedia refuses to acknowledge Freefall (1998-present) one of the long-running fairly-hard-science-fiction webcomics (that gets into space-travel culture and robot culture), specifically because it has an anthro as a main character, more precisely, a genetically engineered wolf, next to a robot and a non-human trader.

It's not that furries are weird. It's that society is weird about furries.

I had an idea that the paws salute should become the official salute of the new resistance (since furries have been marked as a target for fascist enemy within rhetoric), but then trying to do some basic web searches, I couldn't find a proper conventional name for the pose, nor easy-to-find art of it, even though I've seen the gesture made by catgirls often enough to know it's a thing, and one of the salutes I might consider when standing before the firing squad.

In the last few years, I went from being resignedly a man to being enby, having become disgusted with how dudes obsessed with manhood have conducted themselves in our society. Before, I didn't care that much, and my own notions of what it was to be a man turned into adulting in the 2010s (take care of business; make sure rent and utilities are paid; don't do violence, especially when nuclear weapons are involved). Now men look like Matt Walsh and Donald Trump.

I'm not a furry or otherkin (yet), but considering how the furry community is among the untermenschen, I'm half-inclined to develop a fursona for sake of solidarity.

And I still think the paws salute should be the sign of the resistance.

[โ€“] [email protected] 5 points 3 hours ago

I read somewhere that someone's attitude to furries is a great litmus test for how tolerant that person actually is (assuming that person isn't a furry, of course). I've always found myself mildly confused by furries (and I used to be somewhat weirded out because I mainly knew of furries because a friend bought a house from drawing furry porn). Hearing the litmus test thing helped me to chill out a bunch and recognise that seeing lots of furries in and adjacent to my community was a sign of a healthy social ecosystem, so to speak

[โ€“] [email protected] 2 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

Yes, furries seem to be the new group everyone is ready to hate no matter the political inclination. Gays are accepted more and more, trans people are far from safe, but at least have allies, furries seem to be the easiest target now. I need to learn the paws salute.

[โ€“] [email protected] 10 points 5 hours ago (3 children)

Please don't compare your love for cartoon animals to being lgbt

[โ€“] [email protected] 2 points 48 minutes ago (1 children)

Why? If someone's identity as a furry is as much a part of them as your identity as gay, or for that matter, Marcus' identity as black, isn't it similar enough a violation that society deems you can't be that and be a full equal?

This, to me, is the problem. Mystique shouldn't have to hide her mutant status even though she could.

[โ€“] [email protected] 0 points 27 minutes ago

Disney adult ass reply

[โ€“] [email protected] 6 points 3 hours ago

While furries aren't a marginalized group, 99% of furry hate is a proxy for queerphobia and ableism, the criticisms are almost 1:1 with the shit those same people say about queer and autistic folk.

[โ€“] [email protected] 10 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

Tbf, furries are โ…” LGBT.

There's research on that. Thanks, Canadian goverment.

[โ€“] [email protected] 0 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

That can be true at the same time as "being a furry doesn't make you an at risk minority"

[โ€“] [email protected] 6 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

I see a huge potential for them to become an at risk minority. Why shouldn't I defend a group that I think is innocent and under threat? I don't want them to be next. Bullying of groups of people who do no harm, just want to express themselves in their own way, makes me sick.

[โ€“] [email protected] -3 points 2 hours ago

Because being a furry is a hobby, engaging in a hobby doesn't make you a minority.

No matter what happens, you can always stop looking at cartoon animals on the internet, can't really stop being gay or trans.

[โ€“] [email protected] 11 points 7 hours ago

I hella want the coins. ๐Ÿ˜ฉ

[โ€“] [email protected] 9 points 8 hours ago

I remember when this happened, and I remember that post on particular from the artist. I'm not certain they swept it under the rug on purpose, but we certainly haven't seen them since.

Side note, the Paralympics mascot is fine and I'm only a little bit fur-curious, lol.

[โ€“] [email protected] 21 points 11 hours ago

This has such MSI "there will be no bad dragons on my watch" vibes.

[โ€“] [email protected] 45 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

Bizarrely, I had never heard of this before, and I am Australian. So maybe it was released, but maybe quietly swept under the rug?

[โ€“] [email protected] 21 points 10 hours ago

I'm in the same boat as you

[โ€“] [email protected] 11 points 11 hours ago* (last edited 11 hours ago)

Does nobody remember Animalympics? I watched that up and down as a kid! Interspersed with Disnep's Robin Hood.

[โ€“] [email protected] 74 points 12 hours ago (5 children)

All countries need official fursonas; can't change my mind.

[โ€“] [email protected] 1 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago)

Moldova=sheep/goat

[โ€“] [email protected] 4 points 4 hours ago

๐Ÿ‡ฉ๐Ÿ‡ช: German Sheppard (obviously)

[โ€“] [email protected] 4 points 5 hours ago

I agree with that, at the very least more countries should have them.

[โ€“] [email protected] 2 points 6 hours ago

All countries need official moรซs as well. If not, moรซs will be made for them.

[โ€“] [email protected] 19 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

It's called a national animal

[โ€“] [email protected] 26 points 11 hours ago (3 children)

Nope. Animals aren't fursonas. A fox fursona isn't a fox. Fursonas are anthropomorphic.

[โ€“] [email protected] 8 points 7 hours ago* (last edited 6 hours ago)

FYI: anthropomorphic just means it has human-like qualities of any kind. It can still be a regular looking animal and talk like, or behave like a human to be anthropomorphic.

[โ€“] [email protected] 12 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

Let's just anthropomorphize the animals then

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[โ€“] [email protected] 17 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

Your mom is anthropomorphic

[โ€“] [email protected] 10 points 5 hours ago

You're not wrong...

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