Someone better pick up that phone, because I fucking called it.
this post was submitted on 13 Nov 2024
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I'm just gonna keep hammering this in for a while. 81 million Democrats voted in 2020, but only 71 million this year. Trump won by 3.5 million. But hey, at least all you righteous little angels aren't "complicit in genocide", right? Think about that while you polish your halos. YOU did this.
The Dems could have forced a ceasefire. The Muslim contingent warned them months ago and polling very clear showed that a ceasefire would have likely changed the result in several critical swing states.
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I wish I could say I was surprised or upset. I'm just disappointed. Better luck next time, 'Murica.
Next time? Lol
I'm so tired. I'm just going to vote the same way Aaron Bushnell did.
I am not convinced any significant number of people voted for Trump because they supported Palestine. Feels like a massive straw man meant to stoke divisions in the left.
No, they didn't, but I think a lot of people didn't vote for Harris who otherwise would have
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Question. Would Harris have done better if she had a more tough stance on Isreal? Like what votes would she have lost if she committed to ending the genicide? The Arab and Muslim coalitions at the DNC told them that the Muslim and Arab vote was at risk of the Biden administration didn't change course and that Harris would lose their support of she didn't come out with a concrete plan to end the genicide...
I'm my opinion it was a huge mistake to back Isreal in this election. It's not like zionest or evangelical Christians were going to vote blue anyways. Why turn your back on millions of voters in swing states for genicide. Total head scratcher of a decision. Biden nor Harris said they'd work towards a two state solution or allow the UN to enforce and demiliterize both sides. The most support I heard from either was the day before the election. Harris said she'd seek a ceasefire but that was it.
Voting is inherently transactional. The Arab and Muslim Americans told the party what they needed to do to secure their support and the party said no.
I (hate and) understand that the reason is geopolitics and CENTCOM military power projection in the region, but it’s still bad politics to not commit to a pretense of trying.
Especially as NATO allies and economic partners are breaking from the US position on Palestine - and now the Saudis are talking no normalization with Israel without Palestinian statehood.
Last year the kingdom was in the process of negotiating a historic normalization agreement with Israel but recently said that was “off the table” without Palestinian statehood, a demand rejected by Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu.
It's becoming more obvious as the data is on who didn't vote that the far left of the party gave up on the party. The campaign didn't push any left ideals and 10 million of their critical voters said theyve had enough with having two right wing parties. Trump only gained about 500k voters that left the dems for him. I'm guessing those are the racist and misogynist that the DNC is trying to pin the blame on. Keep running right politics and this will be the results going forward.
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They would've lost the LGBTQ vote if they made a hard course correction against the only LGBTQ friendly country in the middle and condemned all those queer people to die.
A rock and a hard place.
What LGBTQ community have you been talking to? I find that hard to believe
I lurk the subreddit from time to time. Keeps me from thinking queer people are batshit insane when it's just Lemmy that's batshit.
The they are both the same crowd.....
They knew that was going to happen. They care more about their own sense of purity than whether Palestinians live or die.
I don't think most people who really cared about Palestine voted Trump, and I also don't think they were anywhere close to deciding the election anyway.
What's the point of this smugposting exactly?
Manufacturing concensus.