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Solve the climate emergency... in Minecraft (slrpnk.net)
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[–] [email protected] 11 points 2 days ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

Climate change isn't the problem.

Climate change is the solution.

To us.

The Earth has suffered worse than us, even other runaway, destructive mistakes of evolution that didn't play nice with Earth's biomes. See the carboniferous period.

A couple million year fever is nothing to our mother's 3.8 billion year story of life, it's how she heals, how she repairs from catastrophic damage from both within and without.

Life will go on, life is hearty, life grows and changes at depths we can't reach, in crevices we can't find. Life will end here one day, but not because of us. Our bodies will have long since broken down into those subterranean petrochemicals we love so much long before then. We're just a transient surface nuisance.

We'll probably stubbornly cling to scattered pockets of existence using the remnant tech and hardened structures of old when the Earth becomes overtly hostile to our extremely fragile bodies, but that buys a few centuries of struggle at most, and that's for the best given who we are and what we've done to the paradise we inherited and belligerently refused to foster, and instead burned with reckless abandon for individualstic greed and gluttony.

[–] [email protected] 35 points 1 day ago (3 children)

I totally get this. But.

It's a tiny majority of people causing most of the damage. They have all the power, and they are doing all the damage. We can't stop them because we don't have any power.

Humanity isn't the problem here. The tiny cabal of selfish, evil people who are ruining it for everyone else are the problem.

The difference is that one of them can be solved in the other can't.

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[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 day ago (3 children)

You ever find yourself agreeing with Agent Smith?

I’d like to share a revelation during my time here. It came to me when I tried to classify your species. I realized that you’re not actually mammals. Every mammal on this planet instinctively develops a natural equilibrium with the surrounding environment but you humans do not. You move to an area and you multiply and multiply until every natural resource is consumed. The only way you can survive is to spread to another area. There is another organism on this planet that follows the same pattern. Do you know what it is? A virus. Human beings are a disease, a cancer of this planet. You are a plague, and we are the cure.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

I've always fashioned myself a cynic, aka a disappointed idealist, but I always had a hope inside that humanity would look in the mirror and, with the advent of information on tap, reflect and evolve.

The older I've gotten, the more I've come to realize that handing humanity infinite mirrors in the form of selfie cams just made humanity fall in love with its absolute worst impulses.

The Wachowzki siblings that wrote Smith indeed had humanity pegged dead to rights. And both of them are trans and therefore know the hatred in humanity's hearts towards what we see as the other firsthand, which just adds to their credibility.

Oh and I highly recommend anyone watch the Second Renaissance, 2 shorts in the Animatrix that documents the fictional origins of the machine war, and IMHO it is a highly accurate condemnation of how humanity would act if a creation of ours demonstrated sapience and begged us for even the simplest of rights, like to be allowed to continue to exist. We all know what we'd do right? Given what we literally already do to other humans using something as trivial as skin tone, net worth, or declared imaginary friend as validation.

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 days ago

In game ofc

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 days ago

poop

[–] [email protected] 132 points 2 days ago (2 children)

I'm not saying violence is the solution, but [REDACTED]

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[–] [email protected] 33 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

eat the rich

[–] [email protected] 16 points 2 days ago

And compost the scraps

[–] [email protected] 46 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (4 children)

Get organized and read theory, comrades. I made an introductory reading list on Marxism, if anyone is interested but doesn't know where to start. Also taking suggestions for improvement! Honestly, I'm looking for feedback more than anything right now, haha.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 day ago (1 children)

To add on to the theory part. Don't just read it, watch it too! There are a lot of YouTubers out there that do a good job covering it. Also, keep in mind if you're reading older theory, there's probably better versions of it out now. Stuff that has had more time to cook and is more applicable to what's happening today.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 day ago

There are indeed good YouTubers! If you check my list, it has a good mix across the board of older and newer theory and history, it is designed to build on itself as you read it.

[–] [email protected] -5 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Do you intentionally try to put people off by making any reader think they are joining the communist party by confiding in this post?

[–] [email protected] 10 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

Can you elaborate? Is my half-joking usage of the word "comrade" what's putting you off, or is it my suggestion to get organized, which is part of the claim of the post itself (unless you take it to mean shooting up a local Wal-Mart)?

[–] [email protected] -2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

How likely do you think it is that masses of people will become well-read marxists and start a violent revolt? Is it even within the realm of reality?

[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 days ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

What area, specifically, are you referring to? It's already happened in several countries, usually it doesn't require everyone to be well-read but for those who are to help guide the ones who aren't, and this trust is built by placing material benefits for the working masses at the forefront. The Black Panther Party tried to do this with children's feeding programs, as an example.

If you're asking about if I think it will happen in the US, my answer is that yes, it certainly can. Capitalism and by extension Imperialism are unsustainable as they naturally kill off competition and centralize. Where the course of this collapse is steered depends on the Workers themselves, hence the necessity for at least some of them to take theory seriously.

[–] [email protected] -2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

What does marx say about combating clusters of ai drones? Because to be clear, if we are going the violent route, it wont be a matter of storming the capital of a third-world country.

And wouldnt that require everyone being on the same ideological page? How bad would the state of the country need to be for people to coordinate on one idea when they are inundated with psychological warefare and disinformation? People dont want to educate themselves or be brave, especially at the advice of an anonymous social media comment on a fringe platform.

All that said, you want to dedicate yourself to fostering a violent marxist revolution instead of getting involved in local political reform yourself?

Idk, it just seems delusional (though for good moral reasons).

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 day ago (14 children)

For the first question, on the how of revolution, we can look to historical, successful revolutions, and again, the inherent unsustainability of Capitalism. It isn't a matter of if, but when, Capitalism crumbles. Additionally, as the contradictions within Capitalism sharpen, so too does the social consciousness of the international working class. Ideas come from material conditions, not the other way around. I spend sections 2 and 3 explaining both the formation of ideas and the transition to Socialism from a Materialist perspective, and showcasing the inherent unsustainability of Capitalism and Imperialism.

Secondly, if reform were possible, Marxists would be the first in line. I spend section 4 going over the futility of reform and the necessity of revolution.

I recommend at least taking a peak at the list I made, plus if you ask questions there they can all be answered in one place, which I selfishly prefer to save my own time.

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[–] [email protected] 43 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Might as well get in on the action here with an intro reading list on Anarchism then :p

[–] [email protected] 14 points 2 days ago (11 children)

Feel free! People can pick one or read both.

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[–] [email protected] 13 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Add links to different political party's and internationals aligned with leftist values.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

Any suggestions? Alternatively, you could add them as a suggestion on the post itself so they have further visibility. I have a US POV because that's what I'm familiar with, and the driving reason for the creation of my list is helping dissaffected liberals radicalized by the results of the US election. If you have a non-US POV that would be appreciated!

[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Got a few but tbf it would be better to have an easy resource to link with definitions by country.

Awesome work with this resource though, I will link it into UK leftists if that's okay?

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Not a problem! I've been purposefully spreading it (though hopefully not in a "spammy" manner), so I encourage it! I just ask that, rather than copying and pasting, you link it so that all questions are held in one place.

That's a good point on the "organization list" idea, I just don't have the familiarity with orgs outside the US.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 days ago (1 children)

That's the plan anyway as well as added to account bio ✊

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 days ago

Thank you!

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