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Yesterday, an unexpected admin post was made announcing that hexbear would be shutting down and recreating two of their most popular communities: the_dunk_tank and dredge_tank. For those who are not aware, those two are some of the most notorious comms in the threadiverse which routinely cause inter-lemmy drama (disclaimer, the deteriorating relations between our instance and hexbear and my own ban from hexbear was ultimately triggered by various posts in the_dunk_tank)

The stated reason was to promote more thoughtful discussions and to prevent a white cishet mindset which was apparently promoted by the content in those comms, according to the mods and admins.

Within a day 1.3 thousand comments were made with hexbear regulars upset at this decision and discussing within.

However, before this announcement, the top admin of hexbear posted in the cross-lemmy admin matrix chat urging other admins to close down their "drama communities" as well.

Hexbears caught wind of this and quickly accused the admin of duplicity, and having other motives instead of their stated ones. The admin in question as defense admitted that it was their attempt to manipulate other lemmy instance admins and it backfired on them

After a whole day of this, the main admin decided to step away from hexbear , followed by more resignations

In the midst of this, people realize another old-mod had recently come back after a 3-year hiatus, and now people start suspecting some correlation. That mod makes a public post before shortly after deleting their account.

There's also smaller pieces of chaos ongoing, such as one admin, banning one of their alts "as a bit" using wording that they were not aware is misgendering ("fella") which caused other hexbears to pile on. Eventually that was resolved, and admins are asked to tone down the "bit doing" during this heated period.

This "struggle session" is still ongoing, with people are asking the resigned mod to come back, and other admins unbanning accounts which were getting banned left and right but it seems those popular comms still remain shut down.

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I hope the instances burns. I'll never forget Hexbear users threatening my life. Fuck. Them.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Maybe you should cool it with the kangaroo beastiality.

But yeah I remember them doing that shit and people like that have no place in the fediverse. We need to annoy sunaurus until he defeds from them.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 day ago (1 children)

We need to annoy sunaurus until he defeds from them.

People like you should be banned.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 day ago

Feel free to ban me from your instance, buddy.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 days ago (1 children)

We need to annoy sunaurus until he defeds from them.

Please do not do that. I pay monthly to be on lemm.ee precisely because lemm.ee doesn’t generally defederate from other instances. You may not like hexbear, but I appreciate seeing certain posts from there and learning about viewpoints that may challenge my own.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 days ago (1 children)

That's your issue, not mine.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Why not just block the instance for yourself? Then everyone wins.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 day ago

I still have to see their horrificly uneducated fascism supporting comments.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 days ago (1 children)

I've been following the drama too. Total misstep from the hexbear admins/mods. I didn't catch that TC69 deleted their account though, kind of a shame because they seemed to really stand up for trans people. I like hexbear, I agree with a lot of their points and like their community. I do not always agree with them, but I respect them in their fight and struggle. It's one of the only places I felt safe talking about my feelings about the recent US election because many people felt similar. I don't post or comment much on hexbear, I really should though. Hexbear did a survey that revealed a significant amount of their users were trans. I did not understand why the mods said white cis het men were the problem and was the majority of their userbase. I am a mixed bi cis latina, I know I do not have a hexbear account but I just wanted to point out that their assessment is wrong. I just hope they can recover from this.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (2 children)

They seem to have burnt a lot of their regulars with this one. I read two heart wrenching posts from ND people in their comms who were respectively devastated for being banned frivolously, or being stressed about potentially being banned frivolously. And I totally understand it as RSD is a common symptom and most of us are traumatized for being constantly excluded. It's part of the reason why I try to be careful with the banhammer because I know how much it affects ND people.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 days ago

Yup. I blocked the instance after being on the receiving end of such a frivolous ban, together with bad faith modding, and having people jump down my throat a few too many times over miscommunication interpreted the worst possible ways to justify "dunking" so that they can look cool to people on the Internet.

What the admin did wrong was to let those comms exist in the first place. Not only can such behavior have deeper effects on those of us who are ND but, by allowing the comms, they helped to cultivate a toxic culture on the instance that is at the root of much of the inter-instance drama. They've been celebrating and rewarding dehumanizing and deriding others, which motivates others to create situations, whether through behaving poorly or tailoring context so that they too can be celebrated and part of the in-group.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 days ago (1 children)

ND is neurodivergent in this context I assume, what is RSD?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Rejection Sensitivity Dysphoria

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 day ago

Goodness. I'm reading the description and this really hits close to a lot of things in my life. Even down to having ADHD and commonly being mistaken as bipolar disorder. (I casually took one of those online tests about it this morning because I've been wondering about my mood swings.) A lot of my "spirals" lately have been tied to perceived rejections.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 days ago (3 children)

WTF. @[email protected] is now suspecting me being behind some sockpuppets because they claim I leaked private messages

By which they mean the screenshot I crossposted in the OP above from their own comm's public comments!. That screenshot was in turn from a discussion in a public matrix chat for lemmy admins.

I am willing to give people the benefit of a doubt, this is some really fucking manipulative behavior and it's pissing me off!

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 days ago

This is the most interesting development. it really exposes their finest member's mind's inner workings:

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 days ago

Well, time to leak private messages now right!

I'm so glad I'm not federated with hexbear & ml.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 days ago

The plot thickens lmao

They seem to have a really messed up line of reasoning, just the claim that it was all a ploy to manipulate other instance admins was insane

[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 days ago

I like popcorn.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 days ago

I love that for them!

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