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submitted 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) by [email protected] to c/[email protected]

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Found in the comments of a youtube vid: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pwI6py78gsI (I didn't watch because I never watch youtube videos, only reading the comments.

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

One of my favorite facts about nature is the fact that practically nothing is vegan. Herbivores are basically constantly eating insects off of the plant matter they eat, and pretty much anything will eat eggs if they find them unguarded.

My point is that if you want to be “closer to what nature intended”, being a vegan with cheat days is probably the closest you’ll get.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Being vegan isn't about being "closer to what nature intended", it's about reducing cruelty and harm as much as practicable/possible.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Being vegan is a lot of things to a lot of people. It’s not only about animal suffering. This is true for some people but plenty of people are vegan for health reasons.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 11 months ago (1 children)

No they're on plant based diets. you don't stop using rabbit glue for health reasons, or not buy a leather couch for health reasons.

Veganism is not a diet, it is a philosophical and moral stance which necessarily includes making changes to one's diet among other things.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago

The dictionary disagrees with you: https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/vegan

[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Never gets old how most people never care about nutrition until someone vegetarian/vegan shows up. Then they’re protein and/or B12 deficient, and they’ll die for sure!

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

As a carnivorous fattie, I do care about nutrition. And in all fairness, I'm open to suggestions for naturally vegetarian foods.

Now, before I get a list of "vegan beef and tofu", what I mean by naturally vegetarian, is foods that don't include tofu (which I personally don't just like), or need to advertise being vegan. I am looking for foods that, from the beginning of the time, have never had meat removed, or replaced. I want "accidentally vegetarian" -foods.

My current favourite is bean-tomato soup, but it gets rather one note.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago (2 children)

I think I get what you're saying, and I agree. It isn't really as simple as "just remove/replace the meat", because plant proteins simply just cook and handle differently than meat, and often time the meat is the core focus of a dish. Instead, the focus should be on recipes that are built around their ingredients. They can have a similar purpose to a traditional meat dish (I will take a black bean burger over a regular hamburger any day), but ultimately should be prepared different.

Also, in my opinion, tofu is amazing when it isn't just used as a drop-in meat replacement. It goes really great with sauces and also fries pretty well.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago

How do you fry tofu well? I've been following youtube videos where the cooks do a pretty good impression of having an orgasm when they taste their tofu, but mine is like deep-fried cardboard.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago

This is quite the point I tried to make. Yeah, at this poi t beans are the only plant protein that I get even decent. Never heard of a black bean burger, to be honest, it won't be the first recipe I'll be looking with my cooking record.

And for tofu. I know it isn't originally meat replacement, and I've seen dishes that look amazing, but I still have trust issues when it comes to tofu. Maybe I need to retry some time if I encounter it in a (proper) buffet sometime. Still, I don't trust it. I haven't been a fan of shrooms either, and they just wasn't my thing even now, when I recently tried to cook some. My SO liked the muahroom sauce though, so it wasn't just about my inability to cook them.