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[–] [email protected] 23 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

What got people to vote for Biden but not Harris? A dire need. Not voting for Biden meant that Trump stayed in office. Even though the stakes were the same, too many people sat on the couch thinking it was going to happen again and they didn't have to go.

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[–] [email protected] 11 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

I've heard the following arguments, I'm ordering them in the way I think they effect an election.

  1. Elon musk buyout and the AI lockdown of social media, and banning of tiktok have all had the effect to fracture democratic/leftist messaging (fault: dems, biden, musk, reddit, people who stayed on x. Affected groups: young people, people who are hard to reach with ads)

  2. The primary election is basically undivertable campaign time for democrats. The lack of primary campaigns and debates means harris had less time to build support and a base (fault biden, affected groups: everyone).

  3. Lack of economic excitement around policies and a shutdown of effective messaging on price gouging in favor of saying a former president will surely destroy the country this time. (fault Harris, donors effect, likely low turnout on younger people)

  4. Lack of demographic excitement around key policies. Latinos: Immigration. Muslims: Israel. (fault biden/harris, effect low turnout in key groups)

  5. Wasteful campaign spending on republicans: Courting Liz Cheney and buying ads to woo republicans at best wasted money and at worst is a giveaway to telecoms who immediately donated it to republicans(fault Harris, effect waste)

  6. Covid provided a boost in 2020 that no longer exists

  7. Mail in voting helped some people vote in 2020. I would say this a tossup however because I do think republicans are able to abuse flaws in mail in systems.

  8. Harris is a woman. I don't buy this one because nonvoters seem disengaged rather than hostile.

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 weeks ago

Crazy how mail in voting was universal in 2020. Then we had states pass a slew of laws to make it increasingly difficult, and turnout slumped.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

bad post, the flaw is OP’s assertion that Biden “set commies on fire”

COVID brought universal early voting and Biden didn’t go mask off conservative and communicated at least a modicum of support for young people facing alienation and low income. that alone is enough to set normies working two jobs on fire. commies have so little to do with it it’s laughable.

(in my opinion) Biden-Harris probably had the opportunity to win over normies again despite Harris’ gender and race (normies are racist and sexist) but instead they spent the last year courting conservatives and nazis. they even forced Walz to silence his normally empathetic and empirically based positions on the border.

if mcdonalds runs an ad for the all new mcburger, and no one buys it? we generally will blame the advertising strategy or the product concept itself. but for some reason when we order a mcburger from the DNC and they deliver a fucking cold tortilla with runny egg on it, it’s “the people’s fault” there wasn’t a lot of buyers.

i voted for harris. she is by far the best candidate of the race. but i will not play pretend and hold her and biden blameless for their abject inattention to the communicated values of their constituents.

[–] [email protected] 32 points 2 weeks ago

Ten Million commies in the US - lol - if only.
Flaunting your Dick Cheney endorsement isn't being insufficiently left. Its political suicide.

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