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Russian official Dmitry Medvedev, a close ally of Vladimir Putin, suggested Donald Trump’s election victory may benefit Russia’s interests in Ukraine, citing Trump’s reluctance to fund “idiotic allies” and “voracious international organizations.”

Although Medvedev stopped short of celebrating, he hinted Trump’s aversion to foreign spending could weaken U.S. support for Ukraine.

Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky cautiously congratulated Trump, recalling their recent discussion on U.S.-Ukraine cooperation.

Kremlin spokesperson Dmitry Peskov maintained a guarded tone, noting the U.S. remains an “unfriendly country” involved in the Ukraine conflict.

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 18 hours ago

just wait til he gets in the seat. yall aint seen nothin yet

[–] [email protected] 47 points 18 hours ago* (last edited 11 hours ago) (1 children)

Everyone should know about The Foundations of Geopolitics: The Geopolitical Future of Russia

That plan from 1997 is literally being implemented before our eyes. And now that trump is in again it will accelerate much faster than it has been (so far with Brexit, Ukraine, trump, partnering w/ Iran, far right in Germany). Next removing US from NATO and driving France and Germany apart.

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[–] [email protected] 34 points 18 hours ago

Of course, now that Putins biggest asset is back in place. Remember when Russia took out American agents in Russia, shortly after Trump requested a list of those people from the agencies, which was shortly after a talk with Putin that went without any witnesses?

[–] [email protected] 12 points 18 hours ago

See? Russia doesn't lie all the time.

[–] [email protected] 80 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

America has abandoned Ukraine and NATO.

Time for Europe to step up.

[–] [email protected] 55 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

Europe has already been pulling their weight in Ukraine. Now they'll also have to pick up the slack that they US is about to create.

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[–] [email protected] 50 points 18 hours ago

Realistic headline: Russia finally wins Cold War by installing orange shithead for second time

[–] [email protected] -1 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

Without Biden Ukraine is gone. Europe doesn't have a single backbone to stand up to Russia. If they become Russia's beeswax, it's on them.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

You don't know much about Europe do you, this was the final nail in the coffin of Atlanticism.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 18 hours ago (2 children)

Well then, do enlighten me? Who's going to step up providing aid to Ukraine once US stops?

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[–] [email protected] 89 points 19 hours ago (16 children)

RIP Ukraine, Palestine, and Taiwan. It was nice knowing you.

I hope any Jill Stein voters are happy

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[–] [email protected] 153 points 19 hours ago (3 children)

The USA just lost the cold war.

[–] [email protected] 30 points 18 hours ago

I guess the USSR and USA had mutually assured destruction by means other than nuclear

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[–] [email protected] 23 points 20 hours ago* (last edited 20 hours ago) (1 children)

To be fair they're saying this not because it's actually useful (which it might be) but because them saying this stirrs shit up and makes people more upset. They're playing on the feeling that is already there, and the best thing to do is to dismiss their comment as a play to make us upset with eachother and watch what they do instead. They want us to burn bridges. That's what's useful to them.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

Few weeks ago it was Biden that Russia preferred.

I don't understand why people give a fuck about what they have to say.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 19 hours ago* (last edited 19 hours ago)

People give a fuck because they're (with reason) emotionally invested in the politics of their lives, and which politicians are elected directly effects their lives. That one's not too hard to grasp.

But while that will always be the case, people need to realize that Russian propaganda is inherently opportunistic and it has a goal of pushing us further apart from one another. There are real issues that lead to these sorts of political outcomes.

It's not because of Russia, but the russian state is incredibly efficient at grabbing those issues and amplifying them to the point where we stop trusting our neighbors and families, thus breaking the democratic wheel.

Knowing that is part of the solution but realizing that there are actual issues that make people vote for political figures like Trump and listening to those voters without making assumptions about their morals is even more important.

edit to add: the republicans are part of America. Their voters are part of America. Just as democrats are. Trump is part of it, so is Jill Stein. Own it, learn from it, don't repeat it. Try to understand why it happened. This is true for every country, but with different characters, other movements.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 21 hours ago

They aren't wrong to say this.

[–] [email protected] 58 points 21 hours ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 206 points 21 hours ago (1 children)
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