Linux Mint and Framework Laptops Join Forces : linux

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

wish they sold framework laptops in my country :(

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 week ago (1 children)

What country are you located in? If you're actually interested I could do a reship, but I also understand if you're not as interested given I'm just a random dude on Lemmy :)

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

No Thanks, I don't rlly need any laptop rn.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 week ago (1 children)

There are companies that do freight forwarding. Much less dodgy than random person on the internet. Would be worth checking out.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 week ago

Alr

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 week ago

Hopefully this means coreboot support finally.

[–] [email protected] -5 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

System76 with extra steps, both even being ubuntu based

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 week ago (1 children)

that's called competition

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

Sure but are there even any retail pc manufacturers maintaining ANY non-ubuntu distros?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 week ago

Framework with Fedora, whom they’ve partnered with basically since launch

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 week ago

This partnership makes a lot of sense.

[+] [email protected] -18 points 1 week ago (4 children)

Of all the distros out there, they went with Mint?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 week ago

bruh whats up with the mint hate.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 week ago

I am semi-literate in "computers". That means I can build my own PC, do no coding, but manage to troubleshoot most things by sheer stubborness, search and the odd question on a "forum" In other words not afraid of tech.

I can't be bothered to sift through endless overengineered BS for a PC to do the few things I need it to do these days. Web browser, Steam and streaming, while not scraping every ounce of personal data and sending it to various entities for nefarious purposes. I have Mint, it works out of the box and I don't have to tinker with it, but enough customizability if I want to.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 week ago (1 children)

What's wrong with Mint?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Uses the heavily deprecated XOrg display manager. XOrg has no isolation of windows from each other, meaning any app can record your screen without notice. All XOrg apps can also log keyboard presses arbitrarily. Since all apps share the same display server, they can easy correlate keypresses (text) with what app it is entered in, kinda like Windows Recall. Cinnamon, Mate, and XFCE all use XOrg. Cinnamon still doesnt default to Wayland.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

Bruh every desktop besides window managers and kde/gnome are still on x11 mostly.
Edit: cinnamon and xfce and lxqt has experimental/preview wayland. (updated to put lxqt in experimental)

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Yes, most DEs use X11. I dont think that is a good thing. XFCE will take a bit to implement Wayland (approx 2 years according to their update schedule).

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 week ago

I said it has beta wayland because of this news

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 week ago (2 children)

...is that all? that it uses XOrg?

https://arewewaylandyet.com/

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

i wish that site showed other desktops aswell rather then apps.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

fair, but i understand the choice as that's a lot more work to do along with having to adopt some sort of arbitrary inclusion standard

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 week ago

l also wanted desktops as well due to it being hard finding a list of desktops that support wayland i just see gnome and kde + window managers.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Nah, I personally dont like its look, Ubuntu base, and slow update schedule. I think Bluefin or Aurora would be better starting distros.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 week ago

Aren't a slow update schedule and a closer look to home better for newbies?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

not dealing with immutability no thanks.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Better for newbies because it is harder to break.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

Yeah the upside of immutable distros, but I think nix implantation of immutablity is really great but nix has a learning curve and your .nix might get messy. + many of these immutable distros don't offer many desktops.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Universal Blue and Wayblue offer most of the desktop environments available for Linux.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 week ago

talking about cinnamon xfce etc

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Sure but Xorg has been like that forever and until recently distros started to default Wayland because of Nvidia, and there aren't many of them yet. Also some programs don't run well with Xwayland, some don't run at all. You're right from a technical privacy point but it's not the end of the world and it doesn't have to be privacy-invading, just don't run proprietary stuff. By the way, CInnamon will switch to Wayland, when the experimental support is mature enough. Don't know about MATE of XFCE.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

XFCE will within the next 2 years.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 week ago

That's nice to hear.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 week ago

They have a similar partnership with Fedora

[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 week ago

Direct link: https://blog.linuxmint.com/?p=4762