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75% of the anti-piracy discussions I see rarely blame companies like Nintendo or Disney and always try to talk about how piracy is immoral, and you should feel "dirty" for doing it. My question is why do people seem to hate those who pirate more than the bad practices of mega-corporations or the fact that they don't want to preserve their media?

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

Its fanboy/girlism.

If you pirate content from their favorite author/artist/producer/whatever, basically all of their screeching comes down to a hysterical emotional response that you are hurting a person or group that they worship as God.

They just learn rhetoric to justify their emotions as a side effect, a consequence of wanting to be able to argue against the bad mean people that are hurting their favorite creatives.

They are naive, ignorant or misinformed, immature... usually believing in some kind 'just world' type worldview where everything is fair and square actually if you just follow the rules.

They don't understand that the actual 'losses' from piracy are far, far smaller than whatever the RIAA or game studios say it is.

They don't understand that the people who actually create or perform the art basically get paid a tiny fraction of what their labels or corporate overlords make.

They don't understand that some people are actually poor, and the poor deserve art as well.

They don't understand that when a reasonable cost forma product with reasonable ownership rights exist, a great, great many will prefer a streamlined but slightly costly method over a complex but monetarily costless method.

They don't understand that you don't really own anything which you can't use or view or listen to as you please without relying on some proprietary other system which may just poof that ability out of existence one day, without refunding you.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

I can hate bad corporate practices and also think that piracy is stealing. They aren't mutually exclusive.

Why do people seem like they hate pirates more, to you? Likely a bias because you are a pirate, and not working for a corporation.

In my opinion I hear more critiques of big business than of piracy. I also dont find these threads full of people saying negative things about piracy, but thats a matter of perspective.

I also pirate, but theres a reason I'd rather pay for it if I can afford it.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

I also dont find these threads full of people saying negative things about piracy, but thats a matter of perspective.

In my experience, people who are annoyingly judgmental about Piracy irl are not the ones using Text-heavy social media.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 weeks ago

In my experience, pirates who are annoyingly trying to find moral reasons to pirate are mostly the ones using text-heavy social media.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

Some people think that bootlicking will make their own pitiful lives better.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Because they're consoomers. Consoomers don't like people who supposedly threaten their product that they shall consoom later.

And consoomers don't want to make the hand that feeds them angry so they'll buy into any and every lie that's been pitched for years about piracy.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 weeks ago

"And consoomers don’t want to make the hand that feeds them angry" oh god this is so true. I see a lot of youtubers/bloggers who act on this statement, and it really pisses me off... they can't even mention "piracy" without saying it's illegal within the first few seconds of mentioning it, many of these people I feel have already sold their souls to big corporations and others I feel live like they have a gun pointed at them, and so they can only say what is "allowed" and nothing more.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 3 weeks ago

It’s law and order with a bit of “thou shall not steal”. There’re people who never question the root cause.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 3 weeks ago

Many think streaming services went more expensive because of piracy ( less people paying for same content = content price needs to be higher, where I believe it is other way around (higher price for less content = more pirates).

The market of distribution of films and series is just fucked. The fight with competitors using exclusive content leads to worst way of distribution since company with exclusive content has monopoly of that content. Streaming services should not be the one owning the content but should be in competition with other distributors offering the same content.

I think the politics have forgotten that we need at least social capitalism if we not want to create cyberpunk dystopia.

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