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As the title states I am confused on this matter. The way I see it, the USA has a two party system and in the next few weeks they’re either going to have Trump or Harris as president, come inauguration day. With this in mind doesn’t it make sense to vote for the person least likely to escalate the situation even more.

Giving your vote to an independent or worse not voting at all, just gives more of a chance for Trump to win the election and then who knows what crazy stuff he will allow, or encourage, Israel to get away with.

I really don’t get the logic. As sure nobody wants to vote for a party allowing these heinous crimes to be committed, but given you’re getting one of them shouldn’t you be voting for the one that will be the least horrible of the two.

Please don’t come at me with pro-Israeli rhetoric as this isn’t the post for that, I’m asking about why people would make such choices and I’m not up for debate on the Middle East, on this post, you can DM me for that.

Edit: Bedtime here now so will respond to incoming comments in the morning, love starting the day with an inbox full 😊.

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 5 hours ago (9 children)

Losing the election is the only kind of accountability Harris and the Democrats are likely to face for their part in the genocide. Otherwise, what incentive is there for either party to ever oppose it? What message would Americans be sending to the world that we would keep in office someone who's been actively supporting a genocide?

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[–] [email protected] 14 points 5 hours ago

I’m going to tell you a secret.

The people who say this, the leftists that threaten to withhold their votes, tend to vote strategically anyways. But threatening to withhold votes is one way to apply pressure to politicians to do things like, say, stop promoting a fucking genocide. And then liberals lose their minds for some reason and make it totally irrelevant. And then we have a genocide that lasts for 75 years and starts world war 3.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 5 hours ago

There are many contributing factors. Part of it is russian and american oligarchs spending heaps of cash to amplify any and every message that could help trump win.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

Some people think the trolley problem is just a funny template.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

Some people think it's the height of political thought and a sufficient salve for supporting genocide.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 5 hours ago (2 children)

Was that why people couldn't vote for Hillary?

Or Kerry?

Or Gore?

It's always something with people's excuses for letting things get worse and feeling smug about it. This is worse than usual - but the system hasn't changed, and your inaction still makes things worse. Y'think open American fascism is gonna make anything better?

[–] [email protected] 6 points 5 hours ago

Gore won the popular vote and the electoral college. Kerry wasn't voted for because more than 80% of democrats fully supported the w bush admin.

Clinton was a genocidal monster, as she has always been.

We e had open American fascism since the 1980s, we just invested tens of billions into things like project mockingbird to eliminate realization amongst most the population.

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