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If one chats/mails with a person using Windows, despite using secure private protocols, every message will be stored by Microsoft's Windoze Recall. Either I'm missing something but this feature seems like the most grotesque breach in online privacy/security.

What are ways to avoid this except for using obfuscated text?

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[–] [email protected] 26 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (4 children)

Don't forget that while they managed the PR better, apple "Intelligence" also has access to damn near everything on your devices.

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[–] [email protected] 103 points 3 days ago (1 children)

If it leaves your device, you cannot control it.

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[–] [email protected] 17 points 3 days ago (1 children)

So is there a way for businesses to disable this garbage feature through managed device settings or something? I’m guessing corporate legal departments aren’t going to be too thrilled with this feature.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 days ago (1 children)

There's a CSP for disabling it on windows enterprise devices at least. Not sure if there's a way for pro and home machines.

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[–] [email protected] 25 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Ugh, I didnt think about that😬

[–] [email protected] 17 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Me neither! Microsoft needs to be taken to court over this because it is a serious breach of privacy to not only record the users but even random bystanders as well. Now I am convinced this is just a backdoor for the government hiding in plain sight. Fuck them.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 days ago

Oh this 100% is the government backdoor that they've been begging for. "If you can innovate your way into it, you can innovate a way out of it."

That was in regards to Apple phones belonging to Boston bombers being encrypted and locked.

It's no surprise that behind closed doors, the government asked these companies to create backdoors for them to spy on people.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 days ago

You can't, at that point you assume your correspondent is compromised. It's not just recall but also malware and credential stealers. Doesn't matter if recall is taking screenshots, if the messaging client itself is pwned via malware then they have full access to as much history as is available.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 days ago (1 children)

To my knowledge, there isn’t. But you can ask the person to turn off recall. I’m going to be running 11 in a VM myself so /me shrugs

[–] [email protected] 8 points 3 days ago (3 children)

The code for Recall is in the code for File Manger. Recall cannot be turned off if you want Windows to load and function.

[–] [email protected] 105 points 3 days ago (3 children)

Can't control what other people do so you might be out of luck.

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