this post was submitted on 20 Oct 2024
775 points (99.4% liked)

Selfhosted

39772 readers
430 users here now

A place to share alternatives to popular online services that can be self-hosted without giving up privacy or locking you into a service you don't control.

Rules:

  1. Be civil: we're here to support and learn from one another. Insults won't be tolerated. Flame wars are frowned upon.

  2. No spam posting.

  3. Posts have to be centered around self-hosting. There are other communities for discussing hardware or home computing. If it's not obvious why your post topic revolves around selfhosting, please include details to make it clear.

  4. Don't duplicate the full text of your blog or github here. Just post the link for folks to click.

  5. Submission headline should match the article title (don’t cherry-pick information from the title to fit your agenda).

  6. No trolling.

Resources:

Any issues on the community? Report it using the report flag.

Questions? DM the mods!

founded 1 year ago
MODERATORS
 

Announcement by the creator: https://forum.syncthing.net/t/discontinuing-syncthing-android/23002

Unfortunately I don’t have good news on the state of the android app: I am retiring it. The last release on Github and F-Droid will happen with the December 2024 Syncthing version.

Reason is a combination of Google making Play publishing something between hard and impossible and no active maintenance. The app saw no significant development for a long time and without Play releases I do no longer see enough benefit and/or have enough motivation to keep up the ongoing maintenance an app requires even without doing much, if any, changes.

Thanks a lot to everyone who ever contributed to this app!

(page 3) 50 comments
sorted by: hot top controversial new old
[–] [email protected] 38 points 4 days ago (18 children)

Sad day indeed, bitwarden going shady and this.

load more comments (18 replies)
[–] [email protected] 37 points 4 days ago (13 children)

Phones are becoming less and less interesting by the day.

Once they get to the point were all of the options that don't require incredibly inconvenient sacrifices in functionality to maintain the interesting stuff like a video game console then that will kill interest in the market for me.

If I can't do anything besides basic smart phone crap I might as well just buy whatever has a good camera once every half decade or so and be done with it. So whatever top end thing Samsung or Apple are putting out.

I'm not sure Google has fully thought through what it means to just be a worse version of what Apple puts out, but with more ads.

load more comments (13 replies)
[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 days ago

I used it on an Android DAP to sync my music collection from my NAS after giving up on Folder sync due to its issues with new file detection breaking after a daylight savings time change. Synching was definitely more reliable but it takes ages to do the scan.

[–] [email protected] 129 points 4 days ago (2 children)

I've installed it from F-droid but still. Fuck google. They really do need breaking up.

I heavily rely on Syncthing. Does anyone know what the outlook is for Syncthing-fork, or what the likelihood is of someone taking on maintenance of this version?

[–] [email protected] 51 points 4 days ago (2 children)

The way i understand it, this stops maintenance for Syncthing, but Syncthing-fork in fdroid will continue its development and support as usual. Both show if you do a Syncthing search in fdroid. The fork is more up to date with features.

load more comments (2 replies)
load more comments (1 replies)
[–] [email protected] 59 points 4 days ago

God this is sad.

The parts of tech that are useful and elegant are contracting, while subscriptions and ads just get more obnoxious.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

I've always just used Folder Sync + an ssh server, if people are looking for alternatives.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 4 days ago (1 children)

That takes a lot more effort.

With Syncthing, I don't have to setup a server, poke holes in my firewall/expose ports, etc.

Plus Foldersync is way harder on battery, I've experimented a lot.

And I've used Foldersync since at least 2010 - it's great, really has it's uses.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

Plus Foldersync is way harder on battery, I've experimented a lot.

This is very configuration dependant. With an aggressive schedule checking a large number of files, it certainly can use a lot of battery; but I've had it setup to sync my entire device to my server a couple times a day, while also monitoring/syncing images immediately on creation/change. It doesn't even register on androids battery usage monitor as it uses so little power.

Anyway; just listing an option for people to look at

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 days ago

It definitely gets better once it's all caught up.

But it's still much harder on battery than ST when folders have changes.

It's kind of not Foldersync's fault, it's really because of the protocols - it's all connection-based, and FS has to compare each file at sync time.

Syncthing keeps an index so it knows what files have changed. Very different tools with different use-cases and approaches.

I used FS for years until I found ST, and had to do a lot more tweaking to get sync to work the way I wanted with FS. FS doesn't have sync conditions like ST, so I had to use Macrodroid to trigger it when on WiFi, for example.

FS can be a solution, it's just a lot more work for anything beyond basics.

[–] [email protected] 175 points 4 days ago (7 children)

I am not the creator, funnily that is/was one of the Lemmy creators: Nutomic :)
I am a syncthing co-maintainer that kept the android app on life support since a while.

[–] [email protected] 66 points 4 days ago

Thank you for all of your hard work!

load more comments (6 replies)
[–] [email protected] 25 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Literally set up a home Nas and syncthing last week.

What's a good alternative for Android?

[–] [email protected] 34 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

Is it well supported with a long term roadmap? Or are there other software one should consider for a 12month range commitment

[–] [email protected] 7 points 4 days ago

Not sure, but it is still active with like 80 contributors. It's much the same as the original with a couple of extra features and more languages, so transition should be minimally painful, maybe even export - import level. I've been using it for years as I saw the original wasn't very active, but they're pretty much (essential) feature complete and stable, which is good. Apparently, google thinks that's bad.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

I can only hope the company makes the iOS client (Möbius) decides they need syncthing to continue and decide to get behind it.

As I recall, they use Syncthing as a solution in their business, this would be a big-break for them.

mobiussync.com

[–] [email protected] 7 points 4 days ago (1 children)

It says "unlimited file sync is a $5 in-app unlock" so I'm guessing they can make money. Main problem is the apple developer fees that will eat the profit of the first 25 sales each year

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 days ago

Maybe I'm misremembering, but I thought they used Syncthing as part of a business not directly related to Möbius - as a vendor supplying data management solutions to other companies. I suspect Möbius came out of need for their clients.

I can picture the vendor website in my head, just wish I could remember who it was for sure.

I would eagerly pay for syncthing, it's that important to me. I keep hundreds of gigs moving around using it. It's on my annual donate list already, but clearly that's insufficient.

Maybe the Syncthing-Fork dev will keep it going.

iOS is already more restricted on app sandboxes, and Möbius can handle it in the paid version.

On Android, Resilio somehow has more file access than Syncthing, even without root (it can read/write to either SD card root, while Syncthing can only write to a subfolder of SD0, and can't write anywhere of an external SD). So there's something going on.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 days ago (2 children)

@chaospatterns

Lo he estado usando en dos dispositivos para sincronizar bóvedas de Obsidian y su funcionamiento era un poco errático.
Después de los últimos problemas, lo tenía inactivo a la espera de una nueva configuración, un proceso que me parece tedioso e innecesariamente complejo. Cuando menos poco amigable.
Mientras tanto estaba usando el cable USB para volcar los archivos en el PC.
Ahora quizás tendré que buscar otro sincronizador para Android?
Android no me gusta. ¿Por qué fracasó el Linux para Tablets?

Quiero mi Tablet y mi teléfono con Linux.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 days ago (2 children)

A mi me funciona a la perfección desde el primer día. Tengo un servidor donde está toda la data que quiero sincronizada, también en mi celular, laptop y PC. Honestamente funciona fenomenal. ¿Que es lo que era errático? Me causa curiosidad.

load more comments (2 replies)
load more comments (1 replies)
load more comments
view more: ‹ prev next ›