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[–] [email protected] 18 points 2 months ago (1 children)

isn't apple used in many languages as a generic term for fruit?... it's not like pineapple has anything to do with apples either.

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 months ago

Not just French

[–] [email protected] 11 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (4 children)

In Germany they are called Kartoffeln (which is also a slur for the Germans itself).
But potatoes are also called Erdäpfel (ground apples) or in southern dialect Krombire (bent pear).
More variants here:
Source (German): https://die-kartoffel.de/wissen/schon-gewusst/kartoffel-deutsche-dialekte/

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

And french fries are Pommes Frites. Fried apples

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 months ago (1 children)

So calling someone a potato in German is a slur?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

Semi.
Another kind of slur is calling "spießig" (dunno the english word. Google suggests stuffy or bourgeois) Germans "Almans" which is essentially the french word for german people but if you call a german "Alman" it's kinda an insult (unless you own it).

Edit: I just noticed what a grammatical nonsense I wrote. :p

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 months ago

Nudel?? NUDEL???

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 months ago

Meanwhile in Quebec, they call them patates

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 months ago (4 children)

We also have a potato-like : word "patate". "Pomme de terre" is déformation of "parmetière" from the name of M.Parmentier who introduce potatoes to the french population.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 months ago

People seem to believe this so let me clarify:

Literally, “apple of [the] earth”. The word pomme used to mean "fruit" in Old French. The French construction originated, as calques, Dutch aardappel, Icelandic jarðepli, Persian سیب‌زمینی (sib-zamini), Modern Hebrew תפוח אדמה (tapúakh adamá), the rare English earthapple, German Erdapfel, etc.

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In fact, apple was a catch all term for fruits in many languages from time to time, hence pineapple (originally meaning pinecone, later used for the exotic fruit because of similarity) or German Apfelsine (orange, literally apple from China), ...

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 months ago

That's actually not true, 'ground apple' is a common name for different sorts of tubers in a number of different languages, going back to the latin 'malum terrae'.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 months ago

That is news to me. Never thought to dig too deeply into my French studies in middle and high school (two decades ago), and so "apple of the earth" was just appropriate. Like, yeah, why wouldn't it be apple of the earth?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Really? That's fantastic! I didn't know that. How awesome!

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[–] [email protected] 20 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Recently I watched an press event with a Canadian politician, who was switching between French and English as we must sometimes. He was talking about a bag of apples (which his colleague was holding) costing a stupid amount of money. He made the mistake of saying a bag of potatoes, which i found fucking hilarious as I speak both languages and understand the mistake. Unfortunately for him, the people criticising him were morons and were like WHY WOULD HE SAY POTATOES IS HE STUPID.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Franglais is my language of choice after several drinks in any French speaking country. I am from Jersey, New, so it's the best I can do with my education.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Four twenties ten and seven. That's four goddamn numbers in a row!

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

The franglais in me screams that neufant ought to be acceptable. I'm sure Canadians are saying it, who knows what language they really speak.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 months ago (1 children)

And orange is a Chinese apple

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Herdöpfel (stove/cooking apple) in Swiss german. Kartoffel in germany. Guess there's some variety, since it's a relatively new crop.

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