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[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

These comments remind me about how when you try to do something great, the vast majority of the feedback will be from people who were never going to buy into your idea in the first place. The fact that they're on version 5 tells me there's demand for an ethically sourced, user-repairable phone with a long support life. Go start your own phone company if you don't like it.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago

This post has devolved into shit and filled with a bunch of whiners complaining about the same dumb shit that isn't a goal of this phone. Might as well whine the new iPhone doesn't cost under $400 for as reasonable of a complaint anything on this post is.

[–] [email protected] -2 points 11 months ago (2 children)

The fairphone is a bad deal. There is not way around that.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago

American moment

[–] [email protected] 0 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Based on what? Cost? The whole premise is sustainability and ensuring the people who build it aren't working sweatshop workers like with every other major phone. I say this knowing full well I'm using one of those phones but Fairphone has only recently become available in my country.

So it depends on if you want a bad deal by parting with some extra dollars or it's a bad deal for the workers that are getting exploited so you save a few dollars.

[–] [email protected] -2 points 11 months ago

I could care less about that. So for me its a bad deal

[–] [email protected] 0 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

Why is it the price of an iPhone in Vietnam? Is it normal? I'd rather afford a PS5 with PSVR2 for the same price???

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago

Because everyone in the supply chain is being paid a fair wage and not being exploited.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Occasionally sluggish performance

Wonder how it will be in 5 years. Personally think you'd be better of buying high end now and keeping it longer. Also I never had any component fail on my Samsung devices (except screen but that was self inflicted and the repair prices of samsung are more than fair). Same with iPhones, they are way more durable than fairphones.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 11 months ago

@redditReallySucks imo, as long as Google Play Services gets updated on your device, you shouldn't have many issues. E.g. check how backwards compatible are apps on Android

@Hydrogen

[–] [email protected] 0 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

I don't know of any high end Android phone manufacturer that promises security updates for >5 years. If you want to keep your phone that long or even longer, there are few choices unless you want to be vulnerable.

Also, I have no idea what exactly "more durable" is supposed to mean, but I'm very much certain that Apple's and Samsung's batteries degrade the same and their screens also crack when dropped. A replacement part and the repair will be significantly cheaper with FairPhone, especially for people who don't want or dare to do it themselves because of anti-repair measures by the manufacturers.

For reference, a replacement screen for FP5 costs 100€ and comes with straightforward instructions from the manufacturer. An Apple screen replacement will cost you 340€ and there are no official ways to get replacement parts or do the repair yourself. You have to pay half a FP5's worth just for an iPhone screen repair.

Edit: Spelling correction

[–] [email protected] -1 points 11 months ago

Sceurity updates shmecurity updates. How many stories of someone bank account being robbed through old android vunerbality have you heard about. Im not saying they are worthelss beacuse Obviusly its better to be secured than not but they really shouldnt be a factor when choosing whetewer to buy a new phone or keep using old one. Especialy if you are like a year behind or something similar.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

I might get flack for this but I despise them for their greenwashing. removing the headphone jack to sell their own Bluetooth headphones was mmmmmmh move at best.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I despise people repeating comments. How is making the device cheaper, more sustainable, and more reliable greenwashing? I would love anybody who just loves complaining about the headphones jack to explain that. No one else has. I doubt anybody complaining really cares about the environment either. What phone do you currently have?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

The usual argument is "FP5 bad because no headphone jack, I choose Nokia or Samsung"... I guess if you're not even trying to have a fair and sustainable supply chain, that's totally fine.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 11 months ago (2 children)

If you're considering buying one you might want to take into account that they removed the headphone jack so they can sell their own wireless buds and headphones.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

I care less about the lack of a headphone jack and more about the lack of multiple ports

USB C is genuinely a great multiport, but all of these companies leave the phone with one port. People would care less if each phone had two ports, so you could plug in headphones via adapter while also charging

[–] [email protected] 0 points 11 months ago (1 children)

you mean this strange old socket that is (at least for me) primarily used for collecting dust since almost a decade? yeah, personally I can live without it.

and this fortunately is not apple. You can use every brand of earbud and use all of the features, so I don't really get your point at all. the phone is very good and I hope I will be able to use it until the 30s

[–] [email protected] -1 points 11 months ago

Having a headphone jack will let you use any kind of headphone produced in the last 50 years, which has a 3.5mm jack. Also, while listening to music you could also charge your phone, if you choose to, but not with a USB-C only port. Furthermore, USB-C DACs are stupid, they are an annoyance, even the ones with the shortest cables - I broke three of them in two months because they're idiotically designed and they don't fold in my pocket - a thing that never happened with headphone cables.