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Google is Killing uBlock Origin. No Chromium Browser is Safe. (www.quippd.com)

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We’ve been anticipating it for years,1 and it’s finally happening. Google is finally killing uBlock Origin – with a note on their web store stating that the ...

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

Firefox exists and that's enough

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 weeks ago

Yeah, agreed

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago

Total ignorant question: how hard would it be to fork (and mostly maintain) chromium keeping manifest V2 support?

[–] [email protected] 19 points 1 month ago

b-b-b-but brave will still pay me brace bux if i watch their ads right???

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I've scene posts about Firefox enterprise from a business perspective. I wonder if we will see Firefox suddenly show up more in the business world. Ublock origin can save you from phishing links and malwarertizing

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 month ago (1 children)

My company allow the usage of Firefox, Chrome and Edge and these browsers are mandatory installed on our corporate computers. But, our users just pick the Chrome and Edge.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 month ago

You got to force it then

Be the shitty admin you want to see

[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 month ago

Yeah we’ve known this was coming ever since Manifest V3 was a done deal. We’ve had years of foreshadowing and months of warning to get off Chromium.

[–] [email protected] 31 points 1 month ago

I moved back to Firefox a few years ago on desktop and mobile. It's perfectly fine and seems less laggy that Chrome.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Vivaldi is including its own adblock outside of the manifest system that uses many of the same blocklists that uBlock does (although at this point you have to add them manually) and hopes to get near the same functionality by the time it is pulled and Mv3 is implemented. They originally had plans to offer a Mv2 compliant area but after seeing how Mv3 was going to be implemented, they changed there plans to many users dismay.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I don't think many people use Vivaldi. Also it is mostly proprietary so that's a hard pass for me.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Roughly 92% of the browser’s code is open source coming from Chromium, 3% is open source coming from us, which leaves only 5% for our UI closed-source code.

https://vivaldi.com/blog/technology/why-isnt-vivaldi-browser-open-source/

Only the UI part is not open source.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 month ago (1 children)

What's the point of keeping part of the UI closed source?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 weeks ago

I've seen their reasoning, but I don't agree with it. The biggest counterexample to their concerns are other browsers: Firefox is no trouble maintaining its IP, and Brave is fully open source yet has not been formed once AFAIK.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 month ago

Partially proprietary still means proprietary.

[+] [email protected] -7 points 1 month ago (2 children)

In my personal experience, and with great regret, I must say that Brave does a better job with its built-in ad blocking than Vivaldi has. Even after I did my damnedest to tweak the ad blocker settings (adding more lists from more sources, removing the "allow some ads" list, etc).

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 weeks ago

Well that is because Brave has been doing it longer, and Vivaldi only has about 30 devs across all the platforms, which is a fraction of Brave, although Brave has its issues as well, just not in the adblock department. I have found that if you use the uBlock block lists it is most of the way there, but it is not ready yet and I think that Vivaldi will have to consider picking up some dedicated devs. Also it is a 'Vivaldi Thing' to launch things piece mail and get those pieces working fully before adding on the rest of it. Then over time it gets good. But Vivaldi has come a LONG way when it comes to aggressive adblock detection.

That being said right now YouTube is detecting it and it is dumping the most manpower and money into this. When it does work you can pretty much use it across the web and the few cases that it doesn't work usually OK just to pause it for a while and you won't get too many ads.

However if Mv3 comes out and they haven't gotten their act together I am going to Firefox or Brave, as much as I don't like how they do business. Then there will be the Google Search thing running through the courts and we will see how Fx and Br come out and change their model.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Brave itself is filled with ads. Crypto wallets, BAT, VPNs. I just want a browser.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 weeks ago

I'm very aware of its built-in bloat, but the ad blocking still seems to perform more like an MV2 ad blocker than an MV3 one (more is blocked even when using the same lists), and it allows you to natively select individual elements to block yourself.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 month ago

But how else will Brandon Eich fund his homophobia and covid conspiracies?

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