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Forgejo is a self-hosted lightweight software forge. Easy to install and low maintenance, it just does the job.

Forgejo v9.0 is the first version to be released under a copyleft license, after a year of discussions. Among the motivations for this change is the realization that a pattern emerged over the years, exemplified by Redis, CockroachDB, Terraform and many others. They turned proprietary because people chose their own financial gain over the interest of the general public. Forgejo admins no longer have to worry about this sword of Damocles: relicensing it as a proprietary software is not allowed.

The removal of the go-git backend is part of a larger effort to make Forgejo easier to maintain, more robust and even smaller than it already is (~100MB). When presented with go-git as an alternative to Git, a Forgejo admin may overlook that it has less features and a history of corrupting repositories. It would have been possible to work on documentation and new tests to ensure administrators do not run into these pitfalls, but the effort would have been out of proportion compared to the benefits it provides.

The Forgejo localization community was created early 2024 with the ambitious goal of gaining enough momentum to sustain a long term effort. A daunting task considering there are over 5,000 strings to translate, verify and improve. There has been many calls for help in the past and the community keeps growing steadily. Fortunately, the translation hackathon (translathon) organized by Codeberg in October was exceptional. It attracted an unprecedented number of participants who improved or created thousands of translations.

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[–] [email protected] -3 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Is it just another Gitlab clone?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 month ago

Lighter weight and they have made a lot progress on federation

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Any idea how forgejo compares to radicle?

I'm trying to decide what to install on my home server. I want something easy to start with but reasonably extensible and federated would be nice

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 month ago (2 children)

forgejo is like github copy, and is a fork of the relatively known gitea. so far there are no federation features

radicle is something similar, but as I understand, with distributed repo management. I don't know the implications of this.

radicle also has an own cryptocurrency, and is entangled with web3.
while not all cryptocurrencies are scams, and probably the same applies to web3 projects, almost all of them are either scams, or useless for the purpose of using it as a currency. I don't know how the radicle currency fares, but it made me distrust them somewhat when they started talking about that in their announcement channel, and the fact that since then the channel did not post much else did not help to gain back this trust

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Just FYI forgejo does have federation, but it's disabled by default. No idea how good/stable/complete it is... https://forgejo.org/docs/latest/admin/config-cheat-sheet/#federation-federation

[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 weeks ago

oh! last time I checked it was still just a feature request. This is cool, thanks!

I could only find this in the documentation of it, though, so probably it's being kept quiet for a reason: https://forgejo.org/docs/latest/contributor/federation-architecture/

the state of it can be tracked by looking at these issues and these blog posts

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

radicle also has an own cryptocurrency, and is entangled with web3.

And that's where it breaks the rule of "Do One Thing Well".

And while it's super popular to spread and consume everything like a big sticky blob - oh hello, systemd - doing many things poorly (yes, we see you, systemd) needs a lot of diplomacy and help from others - hi, Kay - to keep the code flowing. It's often not worth it, as we've seen but don't want to admit ... with systemd.

(if you'll excuse me, I need to go change the location where I look for static nic config files and use a reader more complex than '.' because the windows format is way better and I'm old if I think otherwise)

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago (3 children)

Ah, nice. Had been experimenting with using my Raspberry Pi 3B as my home Git server for all my personal projects - easy sync between my laptop and desktop, and another backup for the the stuff that I'd been working on.

Tried running Gitea on it to start with, but it's a bit too heavy for a device like that. Forgejo runs perfectly, and has almost exactly the same, "very Github inspired" interface. Time to run some updates...

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 month ago

I'm not sure it makes much sense that gitea is a bit too heavy, but forgejo (a fork of gitea) runs perfectly. But forgejo appears to have more developments momentum as a project and so you probably landed on the right choice anyway. 🙂

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Do you use it for anything other than syncing code? Currently I'm using plain SSH sync for all my personal git repos, and I'm not sure if there'd be any advantage in switching to Forgejo.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago

My workplace is a strictly BitBucket shop, was interested in expanding my skillset a little, experiment with different workflows. Was using it as a fancy 'todo' list - you can raise tickets in various categories - to remind myself what I was wanting to do next in the game I was writing. It's a bit easier to compare diffs and things in a browser when you've been working on several machines in different libraries than it is in the CLI.

Short answer: bit of timesaving and nice-to-haves, but nothing that you can't do with the command line and ssh. But it's free, so there's no downside.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 month ago (3 children)

It's interesting that Forgejo ran better than Gitea considering it's a fork.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago

Forgejo ran better than Gitea considering it’s a fork.

Only a master of Evil, Darth.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago

Yeah. Doesn't take much optimising of disk writes to make things run much better on a Pi; they're quite capable machines as long as disk i/o isn't your limiting factor. Presumably the devs have been doing some tidying up.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago

it was forked a while ago now though so the code bases can be quite different.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 month ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

How long does it take for the new features in Forgejo to appear in Codeberg? I suppose it's possible they're already there.

Edit: Codeberg is still on v8.0.3-53, but code.forgejo.org is on v9.0.

Edit2: Codeberg is now on 9.0 too.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Is there a good summary of Gitea/Forgejo background somewhere?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago

Forgejo started as a fork when Gitea became a commercial company with unknown intentions

[–] [email protected] 33 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (2 children)

Was this the git hosting service that wanted to have things like federated (in this case im talking about cross instance) cloning, searching and issue hosting?

I may be mistaken in general but iirc there was a hosting service like this that I found super interesting, especially in light of things like DMCA abuse against projects hosted on github and gitlab.

EDIT: seems like it is one of two, forgefed is a protocol it will use, activitypub one, very interesting.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago (2 children)

You do realize git is federated right? That's how it came about.

As for Forgejo itself they are working on instance to instance federation. I think it is Activity pub based so theoretically it could be compatible with Lemmy.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago

Federated in this case means Fediverse integration.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 month ago

ofc I do, that is why I explicitly mentioned the features I was talking about...

[–] [email protected] 30 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Yes it is, federation work is ongoing. I think stars are in beta.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 month ago

very exciting indeed. can't wait to try it out when federated tickets and PRs are a thing.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago (2 children)

I'm sorry, overlook corrupting repositories? If I'm going to be trusting pretty much everything I ever create to a platform it better be rock solid

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 weeks ago

To be fair, they supported two different git backends, one of them being go-git which was the one corrupting repositories. However, it was never enabled by default, you specifically had to build Forgejo with a specific tag to instead use that as the backend. If you just built normally or pulled ready-made containers or bins then it was always the default git backend.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Well, aren't you glad they're removing go-git then!

[–] [email protected] -2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

The fact that was a thing in the first place scares me enough to not want to use it

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)
[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 month ago (2 children)

I know they have the phonetic spelling of the word in the repo but I still don't know how to pronounce forgejo

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 month ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago

that's a really good way to remember it, thanks!

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 month ago

I don't know how to read the phonetics but they're going for forĝejo which is for-jey-o, so I'd imagine that's how it's pronounced.

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