this post was submitted on 15 Oct 2024
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[–] [email protected] 49 points 3 days ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 35 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)
[–] [email protected] 13 points 3 days ago

Voter fraud and pretty sure you can toss in some vits about mail tampering/fraud, maybe ID theft, and a few others. Knowing that the stats put the majority of mail in early voters as Dems of course they would try this.

Would love to see a big blue wave and have Donnie flip out 'they can't have won, we have thousands of Democrat votes right here in my bathroom...'

[–] [email protected] 95 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (6 children)

Quick digging: source appears to be a reddit post from LA that is light on details. This is voter fraud if true but a grain of salt is warranted I believe.

Here's a pic of the back, according to the Reddit poster: https://imgur.com/y9XaKlr

[–] [email protected] 28 points 2 days ago (1 children)

OP should mail back an airtag and see where it ends up eventually.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Address is likely made up and its not meant to arrive anywhere.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 2 days ago (2 children)

It's probably a real PO Box otherwise the mail might bounce back to the sender giving them a chance to still put it in a drop box.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 days ago

There's no return address on the envelope, so it wouldn't be returned to anyone.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Then the FEC could just find out who owns that PO box and arrest them.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 days ago

If the FEC had enough people on the board who were against election fraud they might do something about it.

[–] [email protected] 44 points 3 days ago

The Presidential Coalition is, and you'll be shocked to learn it, a non profit organisation to support the conservative republican party.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 days ago

Los Angeles? Pretty confident none of their big races are gonna be turned by this

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 days ago

This whole thing seems like rage bait to me.

[–] [email protected] 32 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

“The Presidential Coalition”

Searching DDG with quotes returns nothing. However, and this may just be a coincidence, the related searches are… interesting.

Edit, per a Mastodon reply:

Oh cool, the leader of The Presidential Coalition, the organization listed on the envelope, is responsible for Citizens United:

https://www.presidentialcoalition.com/about-us/david-bossie-the-presidential-coalition-founder/

[–] [email protected] 22 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Oh cool, the leader of The Presidential Coalition, the organization listed on the envelope, is responsible for Citizens United:

The fuck responsible for Citizens United!? So tying that with what people are saying about all the felonies that this would fall under:

But who am I kidding, these fucks never suffer consequences...

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 days ago

Vecause these stories stay on the internet and are never reported to the authorities...

[–] [email protected] 97 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Assuming someone or some group of people are actually putting these in mailboxes to try to trick people, this is multiple federal felonies. It’s election fraud, and it’s a felony to tamper with a mailbox, mail fraud, I would guess conspiracy to commit fraud, and perhaps more.

If true, I sincerely hope someone’s doorbell camera catches them in the act.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 days ago

They could just be posting about it on social media? I feel like even that would be enough to dissuade some people to put their ballot in the mail.

[–] [email protected] 27 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Depends. I feel like the fact that the packaging doesn't explicitly state anything about using it for election mail is their loophole to say they never intended to trick anyone.

It's so thinly-veiled it's disgusting...but the courts are still stacked by Trump appointees who will let his supporters get away with nearly anything.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Fair point.

Ok, so why did you distribute these?

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 days ago

And that's the argument that would have to be decided in court. But with the conservative bias in judicial outcomes and the "guilty beyond reasonable doubt" prerequisite for determining felony status, I am not holding out much hope that anyone will actually see jail time for this. I don't even know if this would get to the point where there'd be a trial, to be honest.

People get unsolicited mail all the time, and as long as the sender paid their postage, the government typically doesn't give a shit.