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cross-posted from: https://lemmy.ml/post/21396125

Stephen Starr in Hamtramck, Michigan
Mon 14 Oct 2024 11.00 EDT

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago (3 children)

stop paying your taxes too, that shit is funding the genocide

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[–] [email protected] 37 points 1 day ago (26 children)

Okay, but, abandon her for whom exactly? Just not vote? Vote 3rd party? I am not going to say Harris is perfect, but this is cutting off your nose to spite your face.

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

At this point (3 weeks before elections) if she comes out against the genocide, it's obvious it's just a career move and not her actual feelings. It will be business as usual afterward.

Apparently this is what her supporters want. As long as they can convince themselves to FEEL like she didn't want to aid in genocide, that's all that matters.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 day ago (1 children)

People here are already claiming that she's secretly against Israel and will flip once she wins, they're in for a surprise (if they're even being genuine).

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Why would they even vote ?

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[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Both parties are beholden to Israel and the power of AIPAC

[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Other way around. Both parties support Israel because Israel helps secure the Petro-Dollar, by which the US dominates the Global South with predatory IMF loans.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 day ago

And it's the cork on land migration out of Africa into West Asia and eventually Europe.

And it's strategically important for the Red Sea trade route connecting Asia to the Mediterranean (although they're having a little trouble with this one lol)

And it's the laboratory for surveillance and detainment and border walls, where they can live test technology and strategies that get exported to prisons and borders and cities around the West.

And it's a place for antisemitic governments to send all their Jewish citizens.

And, of course, there's a large apocalyptic cult of Christians that believe we need to immanentize the eschaton so Jesus can return.

Israel serves so many functions!

[–] [email protected] 26 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Who could have possibly seen this coming for a full year

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 day ago

Honestly it's baffling. They wouldn't have even had to actually do anything. They could have just let a Palestinian-American come up and say generic "we have to do better for the people of Gaza and the people of the world" type of shit and they would have even said that they endorsed Kamala. That's it, and a shitload of people would have been at least able to lie to themselves and say "ok, she'll do something different." But they couldn't even be asked to go through the motions this time.

It's such fucking smooth brained reactionary shit, you don't get to act like Republicans because Republicans will never vote for you, the ones that will are only ever going to do it to not vote for the current fascist, and their policy led to him.

I guess maybe the taste of David Frum's approval is sweeter than winning an election.

[–] [email protected] 30 points 2 days ago (3 children)

Oh they're really gonna love how Trump handles Arabs

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

It's like the trolley problem, except instead of the other track having fewer people, it has more, and it just loops back around to run over the people on the first track anyway. We should have sent the trolley on a completely different route decades ago.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 day ago (2 children)
[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (4 children)

Strawmen belong in fields, not comment sections.

Also: does every ml user have an allergy to pragmatic problem solving?

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 day ago (48 children)

"pragmatic" problem solving is killing all undocumented migrants to solve the housing and work shortages in the US.

Pragmatic problem solving was the excuse for the necessity of the Holocaust. Pragmatic problem solving is making black people count as two thirds a white person to appease fascists.

Pragmatic problem solving is a liberal appointing Hitler chancellor so commies don't get power and Nazis stop doing violence.

Pragmatic problem solving is behind the worst human atrocities. Let's not pretend it's ever been good.

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