How do you post music to lemmy ? You can post images and video files with music tracks, but what about simple.mp3? : music

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Use torrents, lemmy is not meant to be a file sharing service. We can't afford the hosting costs for video and music.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I disagree, I am sorry, I really do. This MUST be supported.

1 terabyte of storage costs 5$ per month, 3 terabyte of data costs 3$ per month. You can host my 800kilobyte music file the same way you can host my 800kilobyte image and my 800kilobyte video It cannot be hosted elsewhere as page load means cognitive break from the original message, it ruins the message.

paywall the feature I don't mind I will pay it forward

pict-rs supports video, search these terms

[media.video]
allow_audio = false 
PICTRS__MEDIA__VIDEO__ALLOW_AUDIO = true

Music is just a video file without a video track and video already works !

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 week ago

Agreed

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

FWIW, mp4 files don’t have to have video streams, so you could use an online service or VLC or FFmpeg to convert an mp3 to mp4 format.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 week ago

id like to post a track, but there is no point of listening to it as an mp3 or whatever. how can i post the flac?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

Ok, I tried

This created a file too big

ffmpeg -i "Somebody I Vacuum to Decay.mp3" -c:a copy -f mp4 "Somebody I Vacuum to Decay.mp4"

This recompress to 64kbit, but still a few byte over the limit

ffmpeg -i "Somebody I Vacuum to Decay.mp3" -c:a aac -b:a 64k -f mp4 "Somebody I Vacuum to Decay.64kbit.mp4"

This was under the limit, but when uploaded, the file disappeared with no error message

ffmpeg -i "Somebody I Vacuum to Decay.mp3" -c:a aac -b:a 56k -f mp4 "Somebody I Vacuum to Decay.56kbit.mp4"

I tried copy to mp4 but trunkate a 30seconds, same behaviour as 56kbit file, despite being under 500k

ffmpeg -i "Somebody I Vacuum to Decay.mp3" -t 30 -c:v copy "Somebody I Vacuum to Decay.30secs.mp4"

I tried adding an image, but this just created a 1 second file with no image

ffmpeg -i "Somebody I Vacuum to Decay.mp3" -i "image(62)-2.png" -c:a aac -b:a 64k -c:v libx264 -shortest "Somebody I Vacuum to Decay.56kbit.withpic.mp4"

This next one loops the image file, now it created the full song with an image in the video channel. Unfortunately the video track now weights about 3 megabytes, so way over

ffmpeg -loop 1 -i "image(62)-2.png" -i "Somebody I Vacuum to Decay.mp3" -c:a aac -b:a 64k -c:v libx264 -shortest -vf "scale=1280:720" "Somebody I Vacuum to Decay.56kbit.withpic.mp4"

This next one created a 2.4mbps file, the image is now awful quality

ffmpeg -loop 1 -i "image(62)-2.png" -i "Somebody I Vacuum to Decay.mp3" -c:a aac -b:a 64k -c:v libx264 -b:v 100k -vf "scale=320:320" -shortest "Somebody I Vacuum to Decay.56kbit.withpic.mp4"

This reduces video bandwidth to 10kbps, image is incomprehensible and the file is still 1.3 megabytes (400k for the video stream)

ffmpeg -loop 1 -i "image(62)-2.png" -i "Somebody I Vacuum to Decay.mp3" -c:a aac -b:a 64k -c:v libx264 -b:v 10k -vf "scale=320:320" -shortest "Somebody I Vacuum to Decay.56kbit.withpic.mp4"

Reduced video stream to 1kbps, 1.2 megabytes, still too big

ffmpeg -loop 1 -i "image(62)-2.png" -i "Somebody I Vacuum to Decay.mp3" -c:a aac -b:a 64k -c:v libx264 -b:v 1k -vf "scale=320:320" -shortest "Somebody I Vacuum to Decay.56kbit.withpic.mp4"

I reduced audio quality to 32kbps, 677 kilobytes, half of that is the video stream still, and at this point it's just a gray image

ffmpeg -loop 1 -i "image(62)-2.png" -i "Somebody I Vacuum to Decay.mp3" -c:a aac -b:a 32k -c:v libx264 -b:v 1k -vf "scale=320:320" -shortest "Somebody I Vacuum to Decay.32kbit.withpic.mp4"

And I post it here And the uploaded file just disappears .....

I try raising the video quality then the resolution

ffmpeg -loop 1 -i "image(62)-2.png" -i "Somebody I Vacuum to Decay.mp3" -c:a aac -b:a 32k -c:v libx264 -b:v 10k -vf "scale=320:320" -shortest "Somebody I Vacuum to Decay.32kbit.withpic.mp4"

ffmpeg -loop 1 -i "image(62)-2.png" -i "Somebody I Vacuum to Decay.mp3" -c:a aac -b:a 32k -c:v libx264 -b:v 20k -vf "scale=480:480" -shortest "Somebody I Vacuum to Decay.32kbit.withpic.mp4"

final attempt, I'm not sure why it won't accept it, no errors, it is under 1 megabyte

ffmpeg -loop 1 -i "image(62)-2.png" -i "Somebody I Vacuum to Decay.mp3" -c:a aac -b:a 32k -c:v libx264 -b:v 20k -vf "scale=1280:720" -shortest "Somebody I Vacuum to Decay.32kbit.withpic.mp4"

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Sorry to hear you’re still having issues. I didn’t write Lemmy and I don’t host lemmy.ml, so my knowledge is limited. The file size limit is per-instance, set in a config file on the server, and I had nothing to do with how lemmy.ml is configured. @[email protected] or @[email protected] might be able to shed some light.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I did some research

https://github.com/LemmyNet/lemmy/issues/3630 https://github.com/LemmyNet/lemmy-ui/issues/2529

The main point is that Pictrs handles the files and it doesn't handle mp4 files without a video track It seems it also strips audio tracks out of mp4 files And it also rejects mp4 files with a bitrate too low.

So there is simply no way to post less than 1 megabyte audio file on here. It has to be stored externally and users have to leave the site to see it.

In other words, there will not be music on Lemmy

Also I found that admins and moderators can modify user comments and impersonate them without recourse or even notice.

Also, all up and down votes on the platform are public but admins and moderators have decided to keep this to themselves. Anyone can see them, you just need to host a lemmy instance then you can see how makes any and all votes. But they don't want the users to see this for "drama", they say. Of course this makes finding astroturf campaign difficult, it also makes content discovery remain a server side thing. In other words they reserve the ability to choose what you see.

All in all, really unhappy with lemmy right now, I think this place is just Reddit with new tyrants, not the decentralized haven that it was sold has. In fact many of Lemmy design fight against federation, such as the lack of community agglomeration in the default view which ensures big instances and big communities get bigger and not decentralized.

I did not expect this conclusion from just wanting to post a simple song in the music community but hey ...

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 weeks ago

Pictrs is only made for images (and videos), as the name implies. Supporting other types of files in pictrs wouldnt make much sense. This means that other file types would have to be stored by a different backend tool, or directly in Lemmy. As we are only two fulltime developers on Lemmy, we dont have the time or resources to work on this, and need to focus on the most popular features.

There is no way for admins or mods to modify user comments or impersonate users, except directly through the db which is unavoidable.

We had a very long discussion recently how vote privacy should be handled, and the current behaviour seems to be the best compromise.

Multi-communities is one of those popular features we are going to implement soon.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Catbox isn't ideal because a lot of countries and ISPs block it, but it allows uploading of arbitrary files. MP3 files should work fine.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 weeks ago

Yeah, it will eventually break, anything external is not ideal. Youtube seems like the only reasonnable option but it's so tedious, they ask a bunch of question and it is going to break some day. Some day youtube will break external viewings from other websites.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

I upload a lyric video to YouTube, but I don't have a band so I just write the lyrics and have a robot help me.

Honestly, as easy as it is now, I really truly feel sorry for artists who are trying to make a living. I just do it for fun, but man-- the whole music industry and everything else is likely to be automated within the decade

(I just discovered suno like last week)

(Edit: Examples (yt tracker removed))

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

I wanted to just post an mp3 file to Lemmy. But it doesn't work I remembered there was a website called "bandcamp" I tried that You had to go through the whole rigamarole of creating an account then you upload the file but no, it wants a flac file not an mp3 and it wants a title image, but 1024x1024 is not good enough, it's minimum 1400x1400 so I just upscale my image in some other software

and finally I could post, the link to a bandcamp, that apparently is only good for 200 playback ?! And they probably have ads and stuff too and are going to get people to subscribe and whatnot

All that just to post an mp3 file like I did here

https://lemmy.ml/post/21313857/14254237

Why doesn't Lemmy just take mp3 files when it does mp4 video files ?! It's weird and annoying !

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

🤷🏻‍♂️

I agree it's not ideal; just offering an alternative that also allows lyric embedding.

Pretty sweet tunes, lol. I dig it

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 weeks ago

Thanks I liked "Time is Money (Not actually in the style of the B-52s. Was just the last style prompt I used, lol)" it feels true.

Yes, it does seem posting the whole ready made mp4 is easier than starting from a sound file.

I think it's because all the tech bros forgot that just because you can have a video track doesn't mean sound files are useless !

Well, I do want to figure out my own music visualization engine. One of my friend was a collector of those karaoke songs and he had a big suite of cool music visualisation software to go with it. I'd going to try and dig this up.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I don't think Lemmy does take MP4 files. Where have you seen that?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

here

and another example that ~~it also does sound just fine~~, there was no sound actually, weird So no sound of any kind on lemmy ?