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Skyrim lead designer says Bethesda can't just switch engines because the current one is "perfectly tuned" to make the studio's RPGs (www.gamesradar.com)

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Ubisoft is worse. I swear, AC mirage has the same issues, glitches and bugs that it has had since the first game. Switch the engine and rebuild from the ground up already. Stop releasing the same game reskinned

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 days ago

We have seen how that ended on Halo Infinite...

[–] [email protected] 7 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

Same game engine that had me spinning uncontrollably during the unskippable opening credits on a fresh install?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 days ago

Bethesda, my hand is perfectly tuned for my dick.

That doesn't mean it's preferable to a moist orifice.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 days ago

I do think they have a point: there's not many other engines I can think of that are quite as 'tangible' as theirs. Every object has its physical place in the world and can be picked up, manipulated,... in a way that's unlike other engines where the world just feels more static.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 4 days ago

Bethesda. Guys. Gather ‘round.

I really love your types of games. I admit I haven’t played through all of the most recent ones, but I’ve structured my PC builds around the Elder Scrolls series since Morrowind. I took 100 hours to play through Skyrim, then I took 200 hours to play through Skyrim VR. And you can tell business daddy that I even used a WMR headset to do it.

Your engine has enabled some great gaming experiences for me. I am not writing this comment to shit on your engine. Thank you for making it.

But we should all be clear with each other that to suggest it is “perfectly tuned” in any meaningful way makes you sound like you’ve lost touch with reality. I get that the dev tools and your process may be nice behind the scenes, but from the consumer side, damn no.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 4 days ago

If they lean any harder into the sunk cost fallacy they're going to be walking on the bottom of the ocean.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 4 days ago

[–] [email protected] 6 points 4 days ago

OMFG can they not learn anything?

[–] [email protected] 29 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

Is that the same engine they used for Star Field? Because I can hear the creaking from here. It's absolutely time for a new engine.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Yes, the same they've been using since Morrowind.

[+] [email protected] -6 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (2 children)

Yes, and the German city of Cologne is the same since it was built by the romans. Because when the name and the foundations are the same over the ages then everything is the same, no major changes are possible ever!

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

The philosophical argument is called Theseus' Ship. Here is a better comparison for you: Unreal Engine. It's "the same thing" since 1998 or so. There's also idTech engines, which are "the same" since Quake. Either engine would better fit the Cologne analogy.

Your city comparison also misses the point because Creation 2.0 is still using the equivalent of roman aqueducts and plumbing in 2024. They might work, sure, but not for a city of 1 million people where every building and home has its own plumbing. A better comparison would be a city that has some road holes older than some of its own residents.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 days ago

Yeah, the Unreal Engine comparison is what I normally do. But change is the spice of life 😁

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 days ago

it literally has decades old bugs. stop. we know it's "updated". the problem is that each time it gets updated to the decade before. also there are hard limits. that's why starfield was the least "open" world they had despite using the most "updated" engine. not to mention you have to go through an external loading screen everytime your character breathes too much air.

[–] [email protected] 28 points 4 days ago

the tech debt effect is hilarious

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