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[–] [email protected] 79 points 5 days ago (2 children)

This is in response to the new California law that forces stores to clearly disclose that the customer is buying a temporary license.

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 days ago (7 children)

Is it a blanket statement for every purchase regardless of what game it is?
If so, that's completely useless.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Just like popups about cookies!

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[–] [email protected] -1 points 5 days ago (3 children)

Not really. If you buy the game on gog, you own it.

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[–] [email protected] 17 points 5 days ago (1 children)

corporations would make breathing a subscription service if they could

[–] [email protected] 20 points 5 days ago (3 children)

When you are six hours into playing Battlefield and you run out of ammo in your clip, and we ask you for a dollar to reload, you're really not very price sensitive at that point in time. A consumer gets engaged in a property, they might spend 10,20,30,50 hours on the game and then when they're deep into the game they're well invested in it. We're not gouging, but we're charging and at that point in time the commitment can be pretty high. But it is a great model and I think it represents a substantially better future for the industry.

I was reminded of this. They would if they could. I am glad i am not living in that timeline.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 5 days ago

When you are six hours into playing Battlefield and you run out of ammo in your clip, and we ask you for a dollar to reload, you’re really not very price sensitive at that point in time

Forgot how evil that was. God, if i was 6 hours in, and they asked me a dollar to reload, i'd uninstall the game, and go play some minecraft or something.

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[–] [email protected] 19 points 5 days ago (1 children)

I'd rather own the games that I pay for than "rent" them in the first place. Sure, this is useful. But it doesn't really solve the issue of not owning anything you buy these days. If anything this will just give them an excuse when they decide to take games you paid for away from you.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 5 days ago (1 children)

I’d rather own the games that I pay for than “rent” them in the first place.

But people will still pay up anyway.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 5 days ago

Gamers have a very short memory. The "ooh shiny!" mentality means that, as a demographic, they are willing to tolerate a high degree of abuse as long as they get to placate themselves with self amusement software.

[–] [email protected] 38 points 5 days ago (4 children)

So if I download a pirate copy, I'm in the clear because I purchased a license.

Doesn't GOG provide the games without copy protection? Doesn't that mean you can actually back up your installed games?

In any case, these services should allow their customers to download a digital copy of an ISO or an installable package of the game so it can be saved as a backup and installed independently.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (7 children)

When you buy on GOG you really get the game, you can (without needing a launcher) download installers without any trouble and you can do whatever you want with them. Want to put a bunch into a pen drive and share with you friends? No problem. Want to install them on a device with no Internet connection? No problem. Want to back them up for whatever reason? No problem.

EDIT: People telling me its not legal, its not about being legal or not, its about having the power to decide to do whatever you want.

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[–] [email protected] 17 points 5 days ago (1 children)

So if I download a pirate copy, I'm in the clear because I purchased a license.

Nope since the copy of the software was obtained with someone else's license. That said this would be hypothetically impossible to prove in court so 🤷

Circumventing DRM is questionable since I think it's illegal to distribute but not own. So let's say you have a CD installer for the Sims and download a crack exe to launch it without the CD. You are in the clear but the host for the download is not.

GOG or backing the game up yourself is the only way around this.

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[–] [email protected] 21 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (6 children)

drm is optional on steam, plenty of games are just binaries you can backup like any other. Not that it helps much with the games that do use it…

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[–] [email protected] 12 points 5 days ago (1 children)

It's already legal to download backups in certain jurisdictions, for example in France.

Also, it's very undocumented but you can actually generate an offline installer for a copy of a game you own on steam. It will still require steam and to be logged in in offline mode with an account that has a licence, of course, but it is a thing you can do.

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[–] [email protected] 15 points 5 days ago

They should be forced to make buyers own it instead of another popup nobody reads.
It COULD become a good change if games get backlash for having the popup but when 90% of games have it nobody will care.
This just gives the "well you didn't read the TOS so it's actually your fault" idiots more talking points.

Could go either way but I assume it wont change much.

[–] [email protected] 63 points 5 days ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 42 points 5 days ago

I still hate the future.

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