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(Yes, of course I know that's not the Enterprise-D and that TNG came out in 1986, but you try making a better debunking joke.)

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 week ago (5 children)

I saw a rebuttal that said the special effects at the time couldn't have faked it.

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 week ago (2 children)

But that's a low-budget show. The Apollo Program had billions to invest in VFX.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 1 week ago (1 children)

It would have been cheaper if Kubrick hadn’t insisted on filming on location

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[–] [email protected] 19 points 1 week ago (5 children)

I've been to the NASA space center and they've got a very vivid recreation of the moon landing in a museum. I have no doubt you could have faked the video. But how they got a moon lander and a flag up there remains a mystery.

Also, we landed on the moon six different times. Even if you're skeptical of Neil and Buzz, it kept happening through Cernan. By Apollo 17, it was barely newsworthy.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 week ago (2 children)

https://www.imdb.com/title/tt11354908/?ref_=ttep_ep8

I guess the VFX reference isn't widely known, nor it's direct enough.

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[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 week ago (1 children)

And the old saying "three people can keep a secret, if 2 are dead" comes to mind. The number of people who would know, just in astronauts, tells me someone would've squealed.

There was a movie in the 1980's that used this premise, but the astronauts weren't supposed to know (I think), or were only told pretty late. Capricorn One (with OJ Simpson if memory serves). Not a great movie, hell, not even good, just an interesting concept.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 week ago (2 children)

The number of people who would know, just in astronauts, tells me someone would’ve squealed.

There are definitely conspiracies that have happened in the US that have stayed (officially) sealed for decades at a time. There's also no shortage of (unofficial) leaks and Deep-Throat style informants willing to sell you a story about the moon landing being a hoax.

I wouldn't say the problem is that nobody squealed. I'd say the problem is that folks who claim they were in the room when Kubrick shot the B-roll for the moon landing from a Hollywood sound stage are not sources that stand up to prolonged interrogation.

Capricorn One (with OJ Simpson if memory serves).

I've heard of it. Mars instead of the Moon. An interesting premise.

I'm also partial to For All Mankind as a "What If" of the US and Soviets continuing the space race for another forty years. Both explore interesting concepts about the intersection of politics and space exploration.

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[–] [email protected] 26 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (3 children)

Wasn't 2001 also made at that time? As I recall, that was incredibly realistic (mostly), far more so than a cheap TV show

(Not saying that 2001 is proof, just that ToS isn't a great comparison)

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