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Looks innocuous enough at first glance right? Let's zoom in on the problem:

These don't go together. If the semicircle on the left is correct, then this is showing moon phases, and the symbol on the right should be of a gibbous moon:

If the cookie-with-a-bite-taken-out in the right is correct, then this is showing an eclipse, and the symbol on the left should be of a 50% partial eclipse:

It drives me crazy every time I look at it.

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 month ago

Clearly this is depicting one of those super rare eclpses where a much larger faster object trsverses the plane halfway through, then the remaining eclipse continues.

[–] [email protected] -3 points 1 month ago (2 children)

My wife bought a candle with a label stating "I'm glad you're as weird as me."

I try to avoid being the grammar police in general, but it's right in front of where my eyes usually go when I pee, so it's hard to ignore.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

The worst kind of grammar pedant: the one who is passionate about a “rule” that is actually only a style recommendation.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

Well, I don't disagree with you.

I've never said anything to my wife about it because I don't want to ruin whatever enjoyment she gets out of it.

In fact, I've never said anything about it outside of my own head (before the above comment) because correcting grammar (or commenting on grammatical style) when the meaning of the statement is clear rarely improves anything or anyone; in this case, I thought it relevant to the conversation, though the court of public opinion appears to disagree.

Ah well.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I don’t know if you realize how condescending it sounds to hear you say you “don’t want to ruin whatever enjoyment she gets out of it” by telling her… what? That you arbitrarily look down on the use of this absolutely grammatical construction?

The thing that bothers me most about stuff like this is that it is effectively some kind of “gotcha” that makes people feel foolish, like their natural, completely grammatical speech has errors, or something they should feel bad about.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago

Just to be clear in case I sound hostile in my response, I'm not trying to be and am genuinely trying to reach an accord here. No sarcasm or anything.

Condescending to ... Whom? My wife? I know her quite well; in past situations where I've pointed out any flaw in something she enjoys (generally not grammar related), that has become the focal point of the object for her. The grammatical stylings of the candle label are not something she can practically fix, so if she enjoys the label and I point out that it differs from the grammar I was taught, I would achieve nothing but ... Ruining her enjoyment of it. Sincerely asking, how would you have phrased this to be less condescending? I don't think she would have interpreted it as such, but if I can express myself more kindly to anyone I'd be happy to.

I am sorry if I have offended you, even by proxy. As I said, I generally don't comment on grammar (excluding in the context of my toddler and solely in an effort to help them learn). Certainly, when I do, I have no interest in a "gotcha" other than maybe when gently trolling a friend whom I know well enough to know that they won't take it seriously. Even that is a stretch.

I try to use good grammar in the interest of expressing myself clearly because I find socialization and conversation challenging and am trying to ensure that my meaning is interpreted accurately. Because I'm trying to use good grammar, I pay attention to the rules I think I know and therefore probably notice if those rules aren't followed. However, if I believe that I've accurately interpreted the intent behind another adult's statement, there's not much reason to comment on the grammar (other than positively, anyway).

I think you misinterpreted the intent behind my statement, but I fully accept that perhaps I've expressed myself poorly. If that is the case, I thank you in advance for helping me to learn.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

well, who really says "I'm glad you're as weird as I" ? Might not be room for an 'am'.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I 100% have said that exact sentence and other grammatically similar ones.

I acknowledge, in the spirit of this conversation, that the previous sentence should probably have one to two commas in it. However, I'm not adding them since I'm very tired and the post probably won't be placed above anyone's toilet for frequent observation.

I also acknowledge that typing that was probably a lot more effort than adding one to two commas.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago

I enjoy using semicolons. They're very useful. I consider them to be a comma-chameleon.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 month ago (2 children)

OP must be either autistic or an astrophysicist. Just chill out dude. Take your meds or smoke some weed, whatever it takes.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 month ago

Right, I forgot that autistic people are not allowed to post about things that annoy them in a community about annoying things. Noted.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 month ago

Eh, there's a reason that Mildly infuriating exists as a community — sometimes the best way to exorcise one's aggravation is to give space to the annoyance by sharing it with other persnickety people.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 1 month ago (2 children)

If the wife likes it, mission accomplished!

Just take a chill pill man.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 month ago (1 children)

How right, I should limit my neurotic nitpicking to appropriate spaces.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 weeks ago

No complaints here; I just want the wife's to be happy.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

My wife had a very stressful and demanding job that paid well. I sacrificed my career advancement so she could pursue this dream. After a few years she burned out, was miserable, and wanted to quit to find a new job. However this came with a huge pay cut too which made the decision more difficult and I was (hopefully understandably) frustrated because I had made all of these sacrifices so she could follow her dream.

But I wanted her to be happy so we figured it out.

Moral of this story? Since then I've learned how much truth there is to the "happy wife, happy life" idiom.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 weeks ago

Sorry to hear it didn't work out as planned for the two of you.

IMHO, relationships should not be about one persons happiness/goals/etc over the other (i.e. wives are not more important than husbands or vice versa). The item mentioned in the original post isn't going to change anything in their lives (other than bringing one of them a bit of joy).

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago

I mean without the quarter moons it works for an eclipse... kinda... just gotta reverse the order on everything starting from the middle? and replace one of the hollows (eclipses/news) with another one of the fulls?

If you are concerned more with how the jewelry looks, I honestly like how it's made better. more metal in the center. but I am with you on "it should be right I do not like that it is wrong" and I'd love if they had both options.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 month ago

Clearly this is from the point of view of a planet with 13 separate individual moons, 11 of which are experiencing an eclipse just at the moment.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago

Remove those cursed half circles and you've got yourself a nice annular solar eclipse!

[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 month ago (1 children)

As I’m reading this I’m sitting in my bathroom staring at the shower curtain my wife picked out which has an equally infuriating moon illustration…

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 month ago

Why on earth would they add a drop shadow while also having a semi white background? I want to find the original designer and squeeze a tube of super glue up their nostrils

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I see the problem, but I doubt many would. No easy fix, but you could go two directions. Replace the one wrong shape and rearrange them, or just replace one of the open circles with a solid and rearrange them to represent an eclipse (with solid on the outside, hollow in the middle.

I get how an astronomy fan would get annoyed. I've gotten gifts before that have had a slight inaccuracy to it, so small I didn't even catch it the first time I saw it. And now I can't unsee it. I still appreciated them though. And yes, I had in a few instances considered if I could fix the issue, but sometimes it's better to just accept it as is. Nothing is perfect, after all.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 month ago

Eclipses do not have a semicircular phase. It's wrong as lunar phases, and it's wrong as an ecliptic transit.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Would changing its name to "eclipse decoration" make it less infuriating?

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 month ago

Then the half eclipse would be wrong, 50% eclipse wouldn't be a straight line across the diameter. An eclipse is two circles intersecting, not shadow sweeping across a sphere.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 month ago

Considering that semi-circles are not part of an eclipse, no.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 month ago (3 children)
[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 month ago

That's not the issue. The artist has decided that the cutout is the shadow, and just made ot "move across" the moon. This is now how light hitting the moon looks from Earth.

@[email protected] may I suggest pretending you are looking at it from the perspective of an asteroid 30 degrees "above Earth" and circling us. That would make it accurateish.

Everything is perspective.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (2 children)

I'm not sure I understand. Like put them in the lathe and smooth the points out?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Yeah, I was pondering if it'd be possible to make it less of an issue. I presume the metal of the discs and chain is pretty thin, so you could get to work with tin snips, a file and some needle-nose pliers. Take them off, rework some and hang them back up. However, a) I'm not sure it could be done satisfactorily and b) that sounds like a lot of hassle for some, hopefully, cheap knickknack, so I'd probably just make it have an accident.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

They seem like cheap plated metal, any alterations are going to wind up flaking and looking terrible

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago

Accident it is then.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

He thinks the problem is that they're in the wrong order when the problem is that they're the wrong shape.

Although now that I look at it I think the different colors are supposed to represent shadow and moon, not just moon.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 month ago

Different colors? They're all monochrome gold, if it looks like different colors that's just reflections from light in the room