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[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 month ago

Only a handful of people (20ish) have ever survived without getting an antiviral shot before symptoms presented.

And it’s a pretty horrific way to die (absolutely dehydrated and needing fluid but gagging and choking if offered a drink).

If I ever got it I’d want to be put in a coma while my immune system tried to knock it out and euthanized if I didn’t recover reasonably.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 month ago

When I was young the fear was put into us by my parents. The Cugo movie really reinforced it.

[–] [email protected] 32 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Horrible. Understandable that a parent may not know the risk involved.

Only reason I know was when I worked at a summer camp they hammered into us that if a bat was found in a cabin we had to catch it for testing, or else everyone staying in that cabin would get rabies shots.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

I assume we would be ok if it didn't bite us?

Edit: no get tested. Apparently they attack when humans are sleeping and can leave no trace.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 month ago

Yeah, state of the art may have changed since then, but since you can't see the bite and a test on a human wouldn't show anything until it's too late, the options were either have a lab test the bat or get precautionary rabies shots.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Little known fact groundhogs are also rabies vectors

[–] [email protected] 19 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

He just popped out, saw his shadow, pulled out a switchblade, and then started running straight towards us

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

A lot of people have a lot of strong opinions around here so, as someone who's been in a bat in room situation with ambiguous contact potential let me point you to Quebec's Health Ministry's Post Exposition Prophylaxis guidelines:

Vacciner les personnes ayant eu une exposition significative à une source potentiellement rabique.

Une exposition significative est une morsure, une griffure ou un contact de la salive ou du LCR d’un mammifère potentiellement rabique avec une plaie fraîche (ayant saigné ou suinté depuis moins de 24 heures) ou avec une muqueuse.

L’exposition significative se définit comme suit :

Chauve‑souris : présence des 2 conditions suivantes :

Contact physique reconnu avec la chauve‑souris; Morsure, griffure ou contact de la salive de la chauve‑souris avec une plaie fraîche (ayant saigné ou suinté depuis moins de 24 heures) ou avec une muqueuse non exclu. La PPE n’est pas indiquée en l’absence de contact physique reconnu (ex. : chauve‑souris trouvée dans la maison sans qu’on ait eu connaissance d’un contact physique avec l’animal). Si la description des faits ne peut être obtenue auprès d’une personne fiable (ex. : jeune enfant ou personne intoxiquée), il faut chercher à savoir si des éléments de l’histoire laissent croire à un tel contact, comme des cris ou des pleurs soudains ou inhabituels ou bien une lésion cutanée compatible avec une morsure de chauve‑souris (plaie punctiforme comparable à la piqûre d’une aiguille hypodermique, d’un diamètre inférieur ou égal à 1 mm, peu ou pas douloureuse).

https://www.msss.gouv.qc.ca/professionnels/vaccination/piq-vaccins/rage-vaccin-contre-la-rage/

Translation of the bold section: PPE is not indicated in the absence of known physical contact (ex: a bat found in the house without knowledge of physical contact).

See also this triage chart:

https://www.msss.gouv.qc.ca/aide-decision-app/accueil.php?situation=Rage

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Pardon my slight tangent, but I was under the assumption that French to English machine translations got a leg up compared to other language pairs specifically because the Canadian government tirelessly translates and releases all of its information in both languages. All this to say, shouldn't this be available in English too?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago

The Federal government publishes everything in both languages, but the Quebec government probably doesn't

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

Can't use machine translation for medical and legal documentation for obvious reasons.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Sorry, I meant the developers of machine translation tools took the readily available mountain of manually translated texts from the Canadian government to 'train' their tools.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Aaaaaah well this document is from the provincial ministry. I'm sure very similar ones exist in English from other provinces, but I knew where that one was, for reasons previously explained.

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