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[–] [email protected] 5 points 8 months ago

Epstein didn’t kill himself.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Now do Tucker Carlson next

[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 months ago
[–] [email protected] 27 points 8 months ago (1 children)

I don't get the focus on whether he was poisoned/actively killed or not. If he died of "just collapsing" the Russian regime is still 100% responsible for his death. They killed him either way. Putin killed Navalny, the means by which that happened are secondary.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Because he very likely has been. Putin has a long history of people "mysteriously" dying. if it happens once in a blue moon, it's a conspiracy theory. But it happens so damn often that it's practically undeniable.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 8 months ago (1 children)

I agree, but does it matter in this case? It feels like a potato potato discussion. Let's assume for a moment he wasn't poisoned. Was he not still killed brutally by Putin's regime? From years of being mistreated and abused? What difference does it make whether he was poisoned, shot, or just exhausted to death? The means by which his death occurred are secondary, him dying by the hands of Putin is primary, isn't it? Putin is his killer, one way or the other.

And I think we are all in the clear that Putin and his regime like to kill off people that aren't taking part in their shenanigans. Navalny's death, even if officially proven to have been accelerated by direct means, will not change the minds of those who don't believe in the government's brutal killing spree.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 8 months ago

True enough i suppose. Though the direct approach is more likely to convince some.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 8 months ago

General malnutrition plus weakened health from the previous poisoning is my guess.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Feel free to call me a conspiracy theorist, but I think this is a bit fishy.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (2 children)

So what's the verdict? Novichok? Polonium?

This crap right here is why we need to keep Putin in check.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 8 months ago

No need for poisoning. Where he was -30°C is normal at this time of year. Not giving him a coat would have been enough to kill him

[–] [email protected] 5 points 8 months ago

Putonium, obvs.

[–] [email protected] 64 points 8 months ago

Yeah, generally that's how you feel after being poisoned.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

Death is just the last time someone loses consciousness... And lots of things can cause a loss of consciousness, in this case, maltreatment, abuse, and neglect.

[–] [email protected] 39 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (5 children)

He's absolutely not Vladimir Putin but let's not hail him as this shining beacon of truth just because he's a martyr. He was still a Russia first nationalist that supported the Russians during the Russo-Georgian war and was vocally supportive of the annexation of Crimea. He even made a youtube video where he played a pest control specialist and explains how to rid themselves of immigrants while comparing them to fleas and cockroaches. In the video he is attacked by a figure presumed to be one of the muslim immigrants he is calling to be exterminated and shoots them twice in the chest.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 months ago

Didn't your boss explode on his plane? I guess Simonyan is your new boss.

For those who don't understand what happened here's short version: he was opposing annexation back in 2014 when it started, and in video he talks not about immigrants(because they did not immigrate, Russia did. Twice.), but about certain Russian citizens - Chechen mafia.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 8 months ago (1 children)

It's not "muslim immigrant". It's Shamil Basayev, a former Ichkerian guerilla fighter (which short existence was fueled largely by kidnappings and slave trade), who later turned terrorist and is directly responsible for numerous bombings and hostage crisises.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 8 months ago

So what. I can still appreciate what he tried to do

[–] [email protected] 36 points 8 months ago (1 children)

And yet would still be an improvement on the psychopath currently in the presidents office. crazy ain't it?

[–] [email protected] 17 points 8 months ago

100%

I understand that better needs to not be the enemy of perfect, but I don't want people to think that Navalny was going to be some savior of Russia like they seem to. He was just an island of semi-sanity in an ocean of diarrhea.

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