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I wanna read something that's fucking brutal with fighting and sex and all the things, but also WELL WRITTEN (so NOT George R.R. Martin, I can't stand his shit). I want Lord of the Rings on crack and steroids.

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 weeks ago

The Poppy Wars which had an eastern theme.

The Prince of Nothing series which is quite grimdark in a fantasy setting.

The Crimson Empire series is a darkish revenge story.

The Covenant of Steel about a poor boy rising through the ranks.

The Rhenwar Saga involves more magic than the rest.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 weeks ago

It's not exactly R rated, but Gideon the Ninth (and its sequels) don't shy away from gore and raunchy language.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 weeks ago

I mean sounds like you want gore. if you wanted softcore porn piers anthony is the way to go but I can't think of something more brutal than gore. going to be interesting to read replies and see what else is out there.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

"Malazan: The Book of the Fallen" by Steven Erikson has probably got what you need.

The main series is 10 books long, and they are amongst the most violent, brutal, but ultimately very well-written series I've ever (so far) read (still on Book 5).

Books 2 and 3 were too dark for my tastes but I plugged on through and I'm loving it. Great characters, wonderful dialogue, and way less obsessed with Food as GRRM

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

I'll definitely check it out! Sounds like what I'm looking for!

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (2 children)

I remember a book series called "something of Krondor" or "Krondor the something" that was really violent and brutal. They made some RPGs based on it too, but I don't think they were ever popular; I have never encountered anyone else who ever read the books or played the games.

Read 'em in highschool and I haven't really thought about it since which is why I can't really remember the complete title or who the author was.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I have never encountered anyone else who ever read the books or played the games.

Well now you have. I played (and finished) Betrayal at Krondor.

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 weeks ago (5 children)

The Black Company by Glenn Cook is pretty dark. It's about a band of mercenaries taking part in a world war where there are basically no good guys. The first book stands well on its own, but it is part of a trilogy.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 weeks ago

I'll add it to the list!

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 weeks ago

Gods yes, awesome series for sure.

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 weeks ago (5 children)

The First Law trilogy by Joe Abercrombie is a fine example of grimdark high fantasy. It isn't overflowing with sex scenes, but carnal relationships are definitely in play.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 weeks ago

I loved this and the other trilogy of his that I’ve read, brutal and dark certainly, but his character writing is mint. I need to read more of his stuff!

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 weeks ago

And it definitely ticks the box for "fucking brutal."

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 weeks ago

If you'd be up for modern fantasy you might enjoy Neil Gaiman's Neverwhere, or American Gods.

For high fantasy, Brando Sando has violence aplenty but not sex. I really like the Stormlight Archives.

I also wouldn't write off the Shattered Sea series by Joe Abercrombie. Yes, they're labelled YA but it just makes them easier to binge.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Richard k. Morgan’s foray into to fantasy “the steel remains” trilogy might meet that requirement. He’s the guy who wrote the altered carbon books, so it’s basically hard-boiled pulp fiction applied to swords and sorcery fantasy. Similarly Joe Abercrombie’s books operate similarly. Genre is… Grimdark I think.

Steven Erickson’s “Malazan book of the fallen” series also would meet the definition, but watch out—there’s a ton of them, and they can be a bit narratively challenging sometimes.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Man I got stuck on like book 4 of Malazan I think, it's been a long time. Still have the books though, I should take another stab at it.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 weeks ago

I’m still slowly working my way… think I’m in book 7 maybe? I sometimes find it hard with series where they change focuses and stories a lot, and malazan does that every book (the whole changing location every other book thing) and I also sometimes have trouble keeping track or who all the characters are, and who is dead, alive, or only sorta dead. But they are very high quality, even if I don’t always understand what is going on. Anyhow there’s so much of it I just dip in and out and will read other stuff for a while—definitely a marathon series haha

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Thomas Covenant the Unbeliever:

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Chronicles_of_Thomas_Covenant

Cenotaph Road series by Robert E. Vardeman. More sci fi than fantasy, but fantasy adjacent sci-fi.

https://www.goodreads.com/series/74984-cenotaph-road

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I'll look into it. I'm a little sc-fi'd out at the moment, but if it's adjacent, it might do. Thanks for the recommendation!

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Covenant is fantasy, so that might be the ticket

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 weeks ago

The Gap Cycle is SciFi, though. Its fairy fuckin dark.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 weeks ago

I guess T. Kingfisher’s Saint of Steel series. It may not hit the “fucking brutal” mark but it does cover a lot of dark themes like loss very well for a fantasy, also not afraid to get racy. I enjoy T. Kingfisher as an author so I highly recommend.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Do you like swords and sorcery? Sounds more like that genre than high fantasy. Not that I'm the genre police.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

I didn't even know that was a thing, so yes, I'll take it!

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 weeks ago

Cool. It's mostly older stuff but here's some info:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sword_and_sorcery

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