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He called me a setter and a nazi out of the blue, and I asked him if he slanders everyone or if he has a reason for saying that about me, then he replies with this legendary quote:
If you’re Amerikan, then you live in the bowels of the single most brutal settler-colonial entity to exist in the modern era. “Settling” is not a once-and-done action; it is a constant state as long as you are on settled land.
I mean they aren't wrong. Just because the natives have been exterminated doesn't change the fact that they were here first.
As a white American descendant of colonial settlers, they're not entirely wrong, it's just that their anger is misdirected. It should be directed at those in power rather than regular people. It's unreasonable to expect all descendants of colonial settlers to leave, but it's not unreasonable to ask them to be aware of their history and how the systems of power and control that were put in place then are still going strong today.
Given I can't see your original comment they were responding to I'll reserve judgement regarding whether what they said is reasonable.
Thanks I was making a comment much like yours where I was being compassionate towards an Israeli who was conscripted at 18 like 20 years ago and didnt want to hurt anyone and worked as a secretary, and who seems traumatized by the experience, and who is very outspoken about the Israeli genocide...
She's a victim of the machine too, and her hands are mostly tied, so I think that its unfair to say she's a bad person for being in the IDF
i'm curious though. what about prisoner states?
were the prisoners considered colonists, or just the lords considered colonists?
I guarantee you they are also American or from a settler country. Racist too
According to demented fuckwads: All americans are settlers who should settle a different country to atone for the crimes of their forefathers...
out of the blue
Lol, this is why i love this comm
Heh
Colonialism was terrible, but technically all land is settled. Humans always moved and settled somewhere else, even before we could be classified as homo sapiens, and that was often brutal too when we encountered others. There's ultimately no space where we truly came from or belong to.
Some truth there... but kinda odd to be spazzing about america when Israel is genociding people to settle Palestine as we speak lol
Man people out here really just trying to make everything related to the conflict, huh? Switch off lol
nah, mate
alright, well, just be mindful of history because it gets very complicated very fast.
If you’re Amerikan, then you live in the bowels of the single most brutal settler-colonial entity to exist in the modern era.
They are not fully wrong. What were you banned for?
My post was deleted for being rude to someone calling for my death....
EDIT: Im banned now! apparently calling attention to threats is a bannable offence!
Get out of there while you can
Normies in shambles... my empire good, my empire strong...
Why not? Amerikkkans don't have an ethnicity or culture anyway
The whole settler thing is never going to resonate when you’re accusing someone whose family has been there for generations of being complicit.
I understand I benefit from colonialism, but my hands are kinda tied! I It's like I don't even own property the super wealthy are the real colonisers! We mostly went from beneficiary to bystanders, to victims as well. And I call out genocide every chance I get but to the hexbear I might as well have done the atrocities myself....
Ethnic cleansing and ethnonationalism is okay as long as it's anti-West, clearly.
Anyone said this?
well i got banned form lemmy.ml for calling attention to communists threats, so clearly there is a double standard
There's a lot of validity to pointing out that colonization is an ongoing process. Just ask any native tribe that's lost their fight over sacred lands so some jackass oligarch can pump oil the short way.
I'm not sure "ethnically cleanse all people with European blood" is the answer.
There’s a lot of validity to pointing out that colonization is an ongoing process. Just ask any native tribe that’s lost their fight over sacred lands so some jackass oligarch can pump oil the short way.
I agree, it's just, you know, "White person living" isn't "continuing colonization". Shit like the Dakota Access Pipeline is continuing colonization. Seems to be the issue with a lot of tankie takes. They find an actual issue that needs to be fought, and proceed to get nearly every detail of it wrong.
Lmao, these pricks are actually hurting their own base by alienating themselves so hard.
Sucks to suck 🤷