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Vladimir Putin has ordered the conscription of another 133,000 soldiers to aid his war in Ukraine.

The 18-to-30 year olds will be called up between tomorrow and December 31, but parents have raised fear that the untrained conscripts will be thrust straight into ‘hot’ border regions close to the war zone.

The figure is higher than the same draft last year when Putin recruited 130,000, and in spring when he drafted another 150,000.

The Russian regime is facing an increasing backlash over use of conscripts close to the war zone in defiance of an earlier Putin promise to parents that he would not put recruits in harm’s way.

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

How soon until we see something like the end of the movie Starship Troopers, where the latest batch of recruits appears to be about 13 years old?

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 weeks ago

Off to the meat grinder!

[–] [email protected] 69 points 2 weeks ago (6 children)

Ah yes, Russian conscripts! Known for such classics as “immediately surrendering because they don’t want to die for nothing in some maniacs war”.

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)
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[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

That site makes my eyes bleed, holy hell

[–] [email protected] 72 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (3 children)

It's insane how many Russians have volunteered to die for a few thousand dollars, for the past year. But allegedly it's getting way harder to get volunteers for the Russian military.
Ukraine entering Kursk was a wake up call, that showed Russians the propaganda was false.
Normally such an invasion would energize a population against the enemy, to protect their own country, but it has had the opposite effect in Russia, probably because the population is realising aspects of the propaganda more.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

It’s insane how many Russians have volunteered to die for a few thousand dollars, for the past year.

The driver is information asymmetry on the part of the volunteers. Yes, people are volunteering and dying for a few thousand dollars, but they don't know that.

They know they are volunteering for a few thousand. They don't know that it is certain death.

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[–] [email protected] 34 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

It's insane how many Russians have volunteered to die for a few thousand dollars, for the past year. But allegedly it's getting way harder to get volunteers for the Russian military.

This is mainly a byproduct of transitioning to a war time economy. Before the mobilization they had a fairly large labour glut, now that they've geared to war time production they're having labor shortages.

The detrimental aspect to this transition is that they're going to have to rely on conscripts for their soldiers as they were already experiencing a really harsh population decline.

The most dangerous part of this whole war won't come for Russia until the war ends, regardless of victory or defeat. Their population decline coupled with the retooling of their domestic economy isn't something that can be undone without major consequences. So they're either going to have to continue the war footing to maintain their economy, or face an economic collapse similar in scope to the USSR.

[–] [email protected] 29 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (6 children)

Their economy is collapsing already, it's just not a quick collapse, but it's definitely already happening. National bank increased interest rate from 16 to 19% in a month, and the Ruble is still declining.
The economy is also declining, while at the same time overheating. (for instance worker shortage as you mention) The Russian economy cannot handle the strain of the war, and they can't keep the economy up by being at war.

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Which propaganda did it show as false? The only one I know about is the lie that Ukraine is full of nazis

[–] [email protected] 28 points 2 weeks ago

The propaganda about Russian military might, and that they had already won the war.
Yes if you weren't aware, Putin is claiming that Russia already won the war. That's how insane the propaganda is!

Also propaganda that no country would ever dare invade Russia because Russia has the strongest military in the world, and they have nukes.

But there are also many Russian civilians that stayed in the region now occupied by Ukraine, and they are in contact with friends and families in Russia, and is now telling how Ukraine is treating them well, and is now supplying food and medicine, and are not at all the Nazis they've been told.

So it's a pretty big collapse of several aspects of the Russian propaganda.

[–] [email protected] 39 points 2 weeks ago

Not OP, but I guess that the one about Russian superiority and untouchability. Not only Russia is not achieving the objectives in Ukraine, it got counterattacked on their own soil.

[–] [email protected] 152 points 2 weeks ago (6 children)

You really have to wonder where the breaking point is at this point.

[–] [email protected] 68 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

It just shows how effective top down propaganda is.

[–] [email protected] 96 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

Propaganda? It's called oppression. It's literally illegal for people to complain about this.

[–] [email protected] 48 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I won’t disagree, but the controlled narrative the Kremlin pushes is still very much the definition of propaganda.

[–] [email protected] 33 points 2 weeks ago

And you need the propaganda to have effective oppression.

Putin has to have his official narrative in order to mandate that anything else is a lie.

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