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This is not an anti-Kindle rant. I have purchased (rented?) several Kindle titles myself.

However, YSK that you are only licensing access to the book from Amazon, you don't own it like a physical book.

There have been cases where Amazon deletes a title from all devices. (Ironically, one version of "1984" was one such title).

https://www.nytimes.com/2009/07/18/technology/companies/18amazon.html

There have also been cases where a customer violated Amazon's terms of service and lost access to all of their Kindle e-books. Amazon has all the power in this relationship. They can and do change the rules on us lowly peasants from time to time.

Here are the terms of use:

https://www.amazon.com/gp/help/customer/display.html?nodeId=201014950

Note, there are indeed ways to download your books and import them into something like Calibre (and remove the DRM from the books). If you do some web searches (and/or search YouTube) you can probably figure it out.

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[–] [email protected] 12 points 2 weeks ago (6 children)

Any Kindle owner should go find out how easy it is to get library books on their Kindle. It’s totally the way to go. You don’t have to buy their shit and deal with their rules.

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[–] [email protected] 42 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Like hell I don't. Calibre plus NoDRM says otherwise.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 weeks ago (4 children)

That's why you shouldn't buy books from Amazon or other online ebook stores instead just download the ePubs elsewhere.

I'd also highly recommend KOreader if you have a Kindle or Ereader which supports it, as it supports many more formats and has a nice interface.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

The interface is 100% of the reason I won't use it. It's by far the worst experience for navigating a library I've ever seen. It's just access to your filesystem, except with effectively no files on the screen at a time.

There's no tags, no ability to choose between by author, series, publisher, genre, etc, just a really bad presentation of your filesystem.

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[–] [email protected] 43 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

You don't own your Kindle books because you bought them from Amazon

I don't own mine because I pirated them

We are not the same

edit: I actually try to circle back around and buy physical copies of any book I really enjoy. But I'm much better about paying for video games, tabletop games, and even journalism than I am fiction... I think my bezos resentment gets in the way a bit there.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Better to give to their patreon if possible. Awesome authors like Shirlatoon have them. Because, quite frankly, fuck the publishers too.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 weeks ago

I'm subscribed! It's one of my favorite series. Also, The Mark of the Fool is another good series.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

If you like HWFWM check out the Mayor of Noobtown.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 weeks ago

Or The Wandering Inn. It's a slow burn, but it burns for ages.

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[–] [email protected] 15 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I'll just keep using my local public library.

Most of them lend eBooks these days so I know I won't get to keep them regardless, but I also don't have to pay for them.

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[–] [email protected] 17 points 2 weeks ago

yo ho yo ho...a pirate's life for me...

Sorry, what are we talking about?

[–] [email protected] 12 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

You are right I get my books for my kindle from torrents. I do not own them. I also don't pay for them.

(Also library has epubs, librarys are great)

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

I have a few kindles, have upgraded over the years and have been able to use them all in the same manner:

With a new device I connect it to the internet and update the firmware to the latest version (the factory installed version has had a lot of missing functionality in my experience). Then I block it from my network, delete the AP entry and put it permanently into airplane mode.

When purchasing an ebook from Amazon you can download it for usb transfer and I organize it on my laptop with Calibre.

Calibre can also strip drm, but if you’re transferring it to the device you downloaded it for it isn’t necessary.

Amazon may at some point in the future change all of this, but the content I have already downloaded can not be revoked and is usable outside the Amazon ecosystem if the drm is removed.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

I just use my kindle as intended: using Calibre's "email" button to load 100% legally obtained books via it's [email protected] address.

IDGAF. If they start yanking books off my device I'll put it in airplane mode.

[–] [email protected] -5 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

If it's on a kindle they can and will delete it off your device, Drm or no

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 weeks ago

It's like you completely ignored the part where he removed his Kindle from the Internet.

[–] [email protected] 64 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

I've used Calibre and stripped DRM off eBooks, definitely recommend.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Does that still work? Last time I tried I had no luck

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

For Kindle specific ripping, I think it changed a year back and now you need to have a kindle connected before the Amazon servers poop out some magic unlock key/the whole book. After that you're golden, but during the rip you need a kindle device..

https://www.thewindowsclub.com/remove-ebook-drm-with-calibre#:~:text=If%20you%E2%80%99re%20using%20Kindle%20e-ink%20devices%2C%20connect%20Kindle,DeDRM%20plugin%20and%20click%20the%20Customize%20plugin%20button.

They explain the Kindle difference when using Calibre DeDRM tool in this article.

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[–] [email protected] 12 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

It's a really nice app. Very customizable.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Sounds like a lot of work. Since , and I am showing my age, limewire I will just put on my pirate hat and read as I decide.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 weeks ago

Takes a small effort to set up (install Calibre, install NoDRM plugin, apply Kindle serial to plugin), but once it's done, the rest is literally drag and drop, it removes DRM from your books automagically.

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