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If your sneer seems higher quality than you thought, feel free to cut’n’paste it into its own post — there’s no quota for posting and the bar really isn’t that high.

The post Xitter web has spawned soo many “esoteric” right wing freaks, but there’s no appropriate sneer-space for them. I’m talking redscare-ish, reality challenged “culture critics” who write about everything but understand nothing. I’m talking about reply-guys who make the same 6 tweets about the same 3 subjects. They’re inescapable at this point, yet I don’t see them mocked (as much as they should be)

Like, there was one dude a while back who insisted that women couldn’t be surgeons because they didn’t believe in the moon or in stars? I think each and every one of these guys is uniquely fucked up and if I can’t escape them, I would love to sneer at them.

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(Semi-obligatory thanks to @dgerard for starting this)

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago (6 children)

Today in "Promptfondler fucks around and finds out."

So I'm guessing what happened here is that the statistically average terminal session doesn't end after opening an SSH connection, and the LLM doesn't actually understand what it's doing or when to stop, especially when it's being promoted with the output of whatever it last commanded.

Shlegeris said he uses his AI agent all the time for basic system administration tasks that he doesn't remember how to do on his own, such as installing certain bits of software and configuring security settings.

Emphasis added.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago

"I only had this problem because I was very reckless," he continued, "partially because I think it's interesting to explore the potential downsides of this type of automation. If I had given better instructions to my agent, e.g. telling it 'when you've finished the task you were assigned, stop taking actions,' I wouldn't have had this problem.

just instruct it "be sentient" and you're good, why don't these tech CEOs undersand the full potential of this limitless technology?

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (6 children)

Hopefully this doesn’t break the rules. But where can I find some educational podcasts that aren’t overly capitalist, reactionary, rationalist, or otherwise right-leaning or authoritarian in nature.

I want to specifically avoid content like Lex Friedman, Huberman, Joe Rogan, Sam Harris. That sounds good on the surface but goes down a rabbit hole of affirming reactionary bias.

I’m not amazing with words, so I hope what I’m saying makes sense. Thanks.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago (3 children)

Most everything from Cool Zone Media is going to be pretty decent. Haven't listened to the whole catalogue, but Ed Zitron of Better Offline is an established nonmember (as far as I know) friend of the sneer and Behind the Bastards is truly excellent.

Maintenance Phase is an excellent examination of diet and health grifters, and Mike's others (You're Wrong About and If Books Could Kill) are also pretty excellent.

I also want to spotlight Wittenburg to Westphalia, a history podcast ostensibly about the wars of the reformation and the social and economic chamges of the early modern period. But in order to really give a sense of how dramatic those changes are, he has so far provided only an incredibly thorough examination of medieval European society from the politics to economics and social structures. He has an episode about unfree labor that I found particularly interesting.

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago

Some others that might work for you, mixture of informative and entertaining hosts

  • Some More News
  • This Machine Kills
  • Never Post
  • Cool People Who Did Cool Stuff
  • Maintenance Phase
  • You're Wrong About
[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

Behind the Bastards is very easy to listen to and usually focuses on documenting the bad shit that various reactionary and fascist figures have done (in a humorous manner — the host was a writer for Cracked during its peak). a couple of the most recent episodes have covered some of the same topics we talk about in SneerClub and TechTakes, and they’re well worth a listen even if you know the subject matter well. I haven’t checked it out yet, but I think It Could Happen Here is a spin-off with the same main host that’s also broadly anti-fascist.

e: also, and I had to look this up cause I keep switching podcast apps: I Don’t Speak German is also good, and my co-admin David was on it (episode 82? I swear it was more recent than that… David were you on more than once?)

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago

i was! ep 82 and 85

IDSG has slowed down a lot cos Daniel's got shit going on right now, but they try to do one when they can

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago

These aren’t exactly educational but the two pods I bring up in this joint are “If Books Could Kill” and “Scam Goddess”. Again, they aren’t exactly educational but you’ll learn from them!

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (4 children)

I didn't realize I was still signed up to emails from NanoWrimo (I tried to do the challenge a few years ago) and received this "we're sorry" email from them today. O can't really bring myself to read and sneer at the whole thing, but I'm pasting the full text below because I'm not sure if this is public anywhere else.

spoilerSupporting and uplifting writers is at the heart of this organization. One priority this year has been a return to our mission, and deep thinking about what is in-scope for an organization of our size.

National Novel Writing Month To Our NaNoWriMo Community:

There is no way to begin this letter other than to apologize for the harm and confusion we caused last month with our comments about Artificial Intelligence (AI). We failed to contextualize our reasons for making this statement, we chose poor wording to explain some of our thinking, and we failed to acknowledge the harm done to some writers by bad actors in the generative AI space. Our goal at the time was not to broadcast a comprehensive statement that reflected our full sentiments about AI, and we didn’t anticipate that our post would be treated as such. Earlier posts about AI in our FAQs from more than a year ago spoke similarly to our neutrality and garnered little attention.

We don’t want to use this space to repeat the content of the full apology we posted in the wake of our original statements. But we do want to raise why this position is critical to the spirit—and to the future—of NaNoWriMo.

Supporting and uplifting writers is at the heart of what we do. Our stated mission is “to provide the structure, community, and encouragement to help people use their voices, achieve creative goals, and build new worlds—on and off the page”. Our comments last month were prompted by intense harassment and bullying we were seeing on our social media channels, which specifically involved AI. When our spaces become overwhelmed with issues that don’t relate to our core offering, and that are venomous in tone, our ability to cheer on writers is seriously derailed.

One priority this year has been a return to our mission, and deep thinking about what is in-scope for an organization of our size. A year ago, we were attempting to do too much, and we were doing some of it poorly. Though we admire the many writers’ advocacy groups that function as guilds and that take on industry issues, that isn’t part of our mission. Reshaping our core programs in ways that are safe for all community members, that are operationally sound, that are legally compliant, and that are mission-aligned, is our focus.

So, what have we done this year to draw boundaries around our scope, promote community safety, and return to our core purpose?

We ended our practice of hosting unrestricted, all-ages spaces on NaNoWriMo.org and made major website changes. Such safety measures to protect young Wrimos were long overdue.

We stopped the practice of allowing anyone to self-identify as an educator on our YWP website and contracted an outside vendor to certify educators. We placed controls on social features for young writers and we’re on the brink of relaunch.

We redesigned our volunteer program and brought it into legal compliance. Previously, none of our ~800 global volunteers had undergone identity verification, background checks, or training that meets nonprofit standards and that complies with California law. We are gradually reinstating volunteers.

We admitted there are spaces that we can’t moderate. We ended our policy of endorsing Discord servers and local Facebook groups that our staff had no purview over. We paused the NaNoWriMo forums pending serious overhaul. We redesigned our training to better-prepare returning moderators to support our community standards.

We revised our Codes of Conduct to clarify our guidelines and to improve our culture. This was in direct response to a November 2023 board investigation of moderation complaints.

We proactively made staffing changes. We took seriously last year’s allegations of child endangerment and other complaints and inspected the conditions that allowed such breaches to occur. No employee who played a role in the staff misconduct the Board investigated remains with the organization.

Beyond this, we’re planning more broadly for NaNoWriMo’s future. Since 2022, the Board has been in conversation about our 25th Anniversary (which we kick off this year) and what that should mean. The joy, magic, and community that NaNoWriMo has created over the years is nothing short of miraculous. And yet, we are not delivering the website experience and tools that most writers need and expect; we’ve had much work to do around safety and compliance; and the organization has operated at a budget deficit for four of the past six years.

What we want you to know is that we’re fighting hard for the organization, and that providing a safer environment, with a better user interface, that delivers on our mission and lives up to our values is our goal. We also want you to know that we are a small, imperfect team that is doing our best to communicate well and proactively. Since last November, we’ve issued twelve official communications and created 40+ FAQs. A visit to that page will underscore that we don’t harvest your data, that no member of our Board of Directors said we did, and that there are plenty of ways to participate, even if your region is still without an ML.

With all that said, we’re one month away! Thousands of Wrimos have already officially registered and you can, too! Our team is heads-down, updating resources for this year’s challenge and getting a lot of exciting programming staged and ready. If you’re writing this season, we’re here for you and are dedicated, as ever, to helping you meet your creative goals!

In community,

The NaNoWriMo Team

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago

@maol Bloody hell, they really dropped the ball.

I wasn't aware of any of this as I haven't been involved for over 10 years.

It's a shame that they lost sight of the basics.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago

God that's exhausting. Wasn't Nanowrimo supposed to be a fun thing at some point? Is there anyone in the world who thinks this sort of scummy PR language is attractive?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago (2 children)

I don't have the broader context to comment on the changes they discussed regarding child endangerment and community standards apart from "Wait... oh my God you weren't already doing that???"

But it's such a huge pull back to go from "hating AI is ableist and basically Hilter" to "uhhhh guys we've had our plates full cleaning up the mess and the most we'll say about AI is to stop being assholes about it on our forums." Clearly there's still a lot of cleaning up to do at some level.

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I was not prepared for how many words the spoiler unlocked

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago

I was not prepared for how many words would land in my inbox 💀

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (2 children)

Metal music festival Shell Shock II loses headliner, multiple bands after announcing Kyle Rittenhouse as guest

Ex-headliners Evergreen Terrace: "Even after they offered to pull Kyle from the event, we discovered several associated entities that we simply do not agree with"

the new headliner will be uh a Slipknot covers band

organisers: "We have been silent. But we are prepping. The liberal mob attempted to destroy Shell Shock. But we will not allow it. This is now about more than a concert. This is a war of ideology." yeah you have a great show guys

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago

By "liberal mob" he means "people who asked for their money back and aren't coming anymore"

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago

I wish them a merry cable grounding fault and happy earth buzz to all

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago

A medium nation's worth of electricity!

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