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[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

On some social positions, I've grown more conservative.

On fiscal issues? Son, at this point I'm only slightly to the left of "Feed the 1% to the homeless and convert their left-over mansions into low income apartments."

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[–] [email protected] 16 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

I have become aggressively more anti-capitalist as I've grown older. At 56, with a nice professional career mostly behind me, I am vigorously ANTIFA EAT THE RICH ACAB.

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[–] [email protected] 29 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

I am more conservative in the sense that I see things with more nuance. I understand societies are very complex systems in a fragile equilibrium and that my naive solutions to the world's problems are not feasible.

And yet, each day I'm more convinced we need to eat the rich.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

You're bringing up a good point. People who say we'll become more "conservative" are usually equivocating on the meaning of the word. It's not like we're going to wake up tomorrow and decide that global warming is a hoax, or that we should stop eating cats and dogs. Of course we'll keep doing those things.

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[–] [email protected] 14 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

Eating the Rich is not enough

Edit: We need to create a whole new system to prevent people from getting that rich and to keep the power to the people

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Maybe we become more extreme in our existing beliefs. My political compass position drifted right from bottom left as I hit my thirties. After the Iraq invasion of 2003 and recessions following 2008 it swung back towards Ghandi. I became convinced that conservative politics isn't working in my late forties and that has only been reinforced as I try to access the creaking UK healthcare system.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

To be fair, the political compass is astrology that makes no actual point.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (9 children)

It's definitely a terrible system, and there are better ones out there like 10Groups. But astrology is completely meaningless. The PCT at least tells you a vague (terrible, yes), but somewhat meaningful direction in which you believe.

For example, I know that since I'm libertarian left on the PCT, that I'm going to disagree with 90% of the things somebody who's authoritarian right on the PCT believes.

Astrology doesn't have that ability to reliably compare, since it is literally and completely meaningless.

But again, shit like 10Groups is better and everybody should switch to measures that have more than 2 axis.

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

If conservative means "cautious and wary of unexpected results", "disillusioned with methods that we tried and failed with" or maybe even "equipped with experience of successful and failed cooperation with various sorts of people", then yes. Already before age 50, I'm spoiled with various good and bad experiences. I cannot exclude that as my tendency to explore decreases (psychology tends to affirm this trend), I may get prejudiced too. I may have to figure out something to counter it.

But if conservative means that I suddenly don't want a society with equality and without hierarchy, then - nope.

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Yeah I think they misunderstood what was happening cause they were getting wealthier as they got older.

Honestly, you just become more protective of your stuff and things you consider yours as you get older.

There are plenty of nerds that are super conservative about their fandoms and what is allowed to happen with them and same for all kinds of niches but the idea we would get more conservative with money really assumed we would accumulate more of it and assets. But what people do have is their apps and thoughts and those... Those people will be just as conservative as the boomers are about their money as they get older.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Honestly, you just become more protective of your stuff and things you consider yours as you get older.

Isn't that plainly false? When I was in college, and just after that, I had almost no money, so I was incredibly protective of my stuff and things I considered mine. Later my income went up, so I didn't need to worry about it as much. Surely many other people have had similar experiences.

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I'm pretty old. Not very old, but old enough to be a legal adult. And I'm possibly the most liberal person in my family. I've been this way for years.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

A bit of both. I also don't like capitalism.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

you're left or you're not, you're a plain liberal

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 weeks ago
[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Don't really see how you can be both tbh

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 weeks ago

They don't have to be entirely mutually exclusive. Though I imagine the most consistent form is just a left-facing liberal: like one that values philanthropy.

Though I have argued that some kinds of anarchists can embody this unholy fusion by way of contributing to society by removing themselves from it. Kind of requires rural homesteading in my experience, having known a few folks that I think could be defined that way.

...Though those homesteading types are often prone to going all sov-cit or worse. Also based from experience.

[–] [email protected] -2 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

Not communism, but Putin.

This is the Maga flag. This is the "new conservative party"

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

What are you talking about?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Trump is a Putin puppet.

The Russian flag may as well be the MAGA flag

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

The flag in the screenshot is of the USSR, ie the Communists, not the Russian Federation. You do know that, right?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 weeks ago

I do.

Poor commenting on my part.

Some part of me would want to argue 'that's still Putin's flag, he's reinstating Cold War & KGB mindset' but honestly, he's taken things far beyond anything his predecessors did.

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