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quit now and set a good example for loved ones (lemmy.world)
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[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (2 children)

People barely smoke anymore. What is it, like 5% of people with a college degree smoke and 5% of people under the age of 30 smoke?

Smokers these days are mostly composed of uneducated, poor, older people. Not to say that is good, but uneducated poor people do a lot of stuff that is killing them. Given the massive decline overall in this generation, I think smoking is going to be much lower on the list of lifestyle risks for uneducated poor people. Obesity is arguably a bigger concern I would say.

I don't remember the last time I saw someone in their 20s legit smoking a cigarette that wasn't at a party or something.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago (1 children)

What about vaping? It may be somewhat "less" dangerous but likely shares most of the same risks.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Vaping isn't great, but three things: 1) based on comprehensive, independent reviews of the scientific evidence by both Public Health England (the English Government Public Health agency), the Tobacco Advisory Committee, and other agencies, it's understood to be 95% safer than smoking. 2) second-hand vape is 99% safer than second-hand cigarette smoke, and 3) vaping doesn't stink in the same way and it doesn't linger as long.

That being said, the fastest growing nicotine intake method is nicotine pouches like Zyn, which are even safer than vaping, have no second-hand effects, and don't have any noticeable odor. They also have much less waste and most of it (the fabric pouch and shredded fibers) are biodegradable. Other than nicotine gum and lozenges, I consider that to be the best ideal substitute for smoking by far.

At that point, it's barely much of a concern at all. Nicotine pouches are safer than alcohol, and I don't care if people enjoy nicotine. I just don't like the parts of smoking that affect other people: health burden, second-hand health burden, and smell.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

You're leaving out a lot of demographics there.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 month ago

Yeah, so does smoking. That's my point.

[–] [email protected] 32 points 1 month ago (5 children)

The part I don't get is that smokers smell like shit standing 6 feet away.

How the fuck is any smoker comfortable with that?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago

I admit, though I have no interest in smoking myself, it definitely has a cinematic allure in fiction when establishing a character a certain way.

I’m also grateful for it in Hitman, where you can create gas leaks near smoking spots and trigger a convenient accident kill.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 month ago

When you smell something all day, every day for years, your brain just ignores it. It's called nose blindness.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 month ago

I wasn't and that's actually what finally motivated me to quit. I had just started a job where nobody else smoked and I didn't want to stink up the cramped office every time I walked in the door. As of this summer it's been 13 years.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

I mostly see homeless people and people in rough shape smoking. Probably in their lives it doesn't matter if they smell like cigarettes. I worked once in a place where one guy of all the employees smoked, and he was basically a social pariah. And people like borderline harassed him for smelling like cigarettes.

He used to smoke out front, then he was asked to smoke on the side of the building because people coming in the building complained, but then people complained about him being on the side of the building and walking near his cloud to their car, so eventually he literally had to smoke either in his car or walk all the way around back and smoke against a brick wall with no windows away from the parking lot. 🤣

It's crazy how far away you can smell someone smoking. I think it smells awful. Strangely, my grandpa used to regularly smoke a pipe in his office/study at their house in the evening, but he always dumped his pipe outside and kept everything very clean, and it always smelled wonderful in there to me, and even to this day I love the smell of pipe tobacco, so I guess it's just kind of what you're familiar with. Or maybe pipe tobacco just doesn't smell as bad or something idk.

[–] [email protected] 37 points 1 month ago (1 children)

They can't smell it on themselves. You get so used to the smell that it is completely unobserved by them.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 1 month ago

Yea, my sister used to smoke and thought that she could smoke outside and be "smoke free" inside. She didn't understand I could smell it on her till she showered. So glad she quit.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 1 month ago

Amateur mistake: It's needs to be "I will miss you when you are gone (due to smokngl"