The cartoon is good except they show the daughters as too old. In those times the girls were married off by 16, so if you're showing two daughters they should be more like 15 and 12. Imagine that for a fucking second.
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The bible should be one long poem that must be sung in order to hear it.
Im just so tired of web comics
How do you even? That's like saying "I'm just so tried of music".
Lot's wife became the salt of the earth.
For those of you who don't know your full Biblical history, the story of Sodom and Gomorrah continues with Lot's wife being turned into a pillar of salt and then his daughters get drunk and fuck Lot.
Put "a" before Lot and you have a pun.
his daughters get drunk and fuck Lot.
I've always understood it to be the other way around: Lot's daughters force Lot to get blackout drunk, then they fuck him while he's blacked out. Repeatedly.
Remember, lot was an older "drunk" man that got hard one.
Yeah, evidently they wanted children abdly enough to justify raping their dad.
Which is a sentence I just typed. Ew.
Nah, this was just Lot's story as to why his daughters were pregnant. Just like Mary's obviously bullshit sorry ("ok, I'm pregnant, but I'm a virgin, honest! God must have done it!"), this was Lot's excuse because he was raping his daughters. "I got drunk and THEY made me have sex with them!". Talk about blaming the victims.
This version makes more sense.
I've been getting into some early Christian / Biblical textual analysis and history and apparently the people who wrote the Sodom story would not have understood the concept of homosexuality as an orientation, their conception was entirely act-based and focused on penetrator vs penetrated.
So this story, the primary anti-gay biblical story, is better understood as showing the Sodomites violating Guest Right, and Lot being such a good host that he expends resources (gives away his daughters to be raped) to keep his guests safe.
Just goes to show how cultural context is important in reading texts.
The preceding chapter is all about Abraham badgering God over the destruction of a city. He starts by saying "Okay, but would you destroy the city if fifty of its inhabitants didn't deserve it? What about forty-five? Forty? Thirty? Ten, even?" And in the end, God sends Angels down to pull the last righteous man in Sodom out of town before its destroyed.
The guest right passage is intended to illustrate him as a self-less man who would stand at the door before an angry mob to protect his new friends.
I love that it's an anti-gay story, and it was completely made up. Sodom and Gomorrah were not real places. The guy who wrote Genesis literally couldn't think of a real world reason why homosexuality or just sodomy was immoral so he made up a fairy tale.
Maybe it's the primary anti-gay story, but aren't there verses about "not lying with a man as with a woman"? And the punishment for that is to be stoned to death?
There is, but the translation is not perfect and I have seen the argument that the Hebrew translates closer to "you shall not lie with a close male relative as you would your wife" since there is a lot of incest mentioned in the list of prohibitions, or I've also seen it argued that it's implying "male sex worker", the word for "man" in that passage is not the normal word for "man" used in the rest of the Bible.
And I have also heard the context of the entire section being about priestly purity, so it's more like you wouldn't be able to perform rituals after having the wrong type of sex until you are purified, but it's on the same level as women being unclean when they are menstruating.
But the better argument to me is that Leviticus is specifically part of the Jewish Law, and people since the Apostle Paul have been saying you can't keep the Jewish Law and be a good Christian, because Jesus replaced all those rules. So it's actually a sin if you're Christian and insisting people abide by the rules in Levitivus.
(This is why I think this stuff is interesting)
But married heteros doing oral, anal, mutual masturbation, or sex during a period is all forbidden. Yet all queer hating Christians don't speak out against any of that hetero/married sin.
Oh, I'm sure if the killjoys managed to outlaw homosexuality again they would come for those things next.
It'd definitely be 'oral for me, but not for thee'
apparently the people who wrote the Sodom story would not have understood the concept of homosexuality as an orientation, their conception was entirely act-based and focused on penetrator vs penetrated.
This is true for every culture except the current postmodern context in which we find ourselves.
The development of our current understanding of sexuality is a byproduct of the Green Revolution and the massive abundance of food in the western world. When you're hungry or in fear of being hungry, sex occupies less of your mind.
I like girls though
Have you ever tried to get frisky with a girl who's hangry?
Low blood sugar makes me lose my erection.
Ahhh stories like this in the Bible are always conveniently overlooked during Sunday school. I wonder why that is? 🤔🤔
They also conveniently forget about Numbers 5 : 11-31, the only time abortion is even mentioned in The Bible, and if you read The Old Testament, The Mishrad, and The Talmud, you'll realize that The Bible just told you to perform a barbaric abortion method, in case of suspected infidelity. The mother died of the "bitter waters" as well as the fetus, if it was made incorrectly.
#TheF-ingBibleIsProChoice
Turns out, half of the bible was just a bunch of dudes talking about their rape and incest kinks.
Or the one where the girls get their father drunk and get pregnant by him.
The daughters get drunk. Dad is fully cognizant the entire time.
This is so easily fact checkable
https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Genesis+19%3A30-38&version=NKJV
Now the firstborn said to the younger, “Our father is old, and there is no man on the earth to come in to us as is the custom of all the earth. Come, let us make our father drink wine, and we will lie with him, that we may preserve the lineage of our father.” So they made their father drink wine that night. And the firstborn went in and lay with her father, and he did not know when she lay down or when she arose.
It happened on the next day that the firstborn said to the younger, “Indeed I lay with my father last night; let us make him drink wine tonight also, and you go in and lie with him, that we may preserve the lineage of our father.” Then they made their father drink wine that night also. And the younger arose and lay with him, and he did not know when she lay down or when she arose.
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