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The IT ministry has reportedly decided to issue an order blocking end-to-end encrypted email service ProtonMail. According to a report in Hindustan Times, the government is planning to block the email service at the request of the Tamil Nadu police over a hoax bomb threat sent to at least thirteen private schools in Chennai on February 8. The report says that the decision to block ProtonMail was taken at a meeting of the 69A blocking committee on Wednesday (February 14).

A Proton spokesperson told the publication that the company has received the request from MeitY “a few days ago”. “We are currently working to resolve this situation and are investigating how we can best work together with the Indian authorities to do so. We understand the urgency of the situation and are completely clear that our services are not to be used for illegal purposes. We routinely remove users who are found to be doing so and are willing to cooperate wherever possible within international cooperation agreements,” the spokesperson said.

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

Does anybody know how to email people at MeitY and complain about this decision. The official website has no useful information

[–] [email protected] 0 points 8 months ago

They probably typed it with a keyboard. They should ban them too.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 9 months ago

Man, can’t wait to see what they do to ban those that manufacture knives the next time someone gets attacked by a criminal with one. /s

[–] [email protected] 0 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Btw Internet Freedom Foundation (or the IFF) filed several RTI requests (RTI = Request to information) regarding this situation. If anyone wants to follow their progress then here’s their Mastodon account: https://mastodon.world/@[email protected]

The IFF is a highly trustworthy and well respected organization that fights for Indians digital rights and democratic freedoms. They’ve done a lot of good work over the years, they even helped VLC to get unblocked when it was banned in India.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

I am not on mastodon sadly

[–] [email protected] 0 points 9 months ago

yes they are! and no worries, you can still view their toots and see if their RTI requests have been responded to

[–] [email protected] 0 points 9 months ago (1 children)

India is slowly becoming their neighbor everyday

[–] [email protected] 0 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Sadly yes, this digital authoritarianism is very concerning and immensely worrying

[–] [email protected] 0 points 9 months ago

Not just digital sadly. 😮‍💨😮‍💨😮‍💨

[–] [email protected] 0 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Will they also be blocking other proton services¿?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Nope, not yet at least....

[–] [email protected] 0 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Good. I will use proton VPN to get over this bullshit ban

[–] [email protected] 0 points 8 months ago

@Sentau @Stewbs Proton VPN aren’t the best, I actually have BitDefender VPN … not so bad. Any other suggestions ?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 9 months ago (1 children)

well they blocked every porn site in india for a different but equally stupid reason.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 9 months ago (2 children)

Well i just checked because of your comment and no they are'nt banned i think the law goes something like you can't watch it in public or something.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Maybe they banned them and un-banned them later? It was a big story when the government of india banned porn sites.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 8 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 0 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Maybe not in the bubbles you hang out in.

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Nah they are positively blocked, if you try to access them you'll be hit by "The website has been blocked as per direction/order of Hon’ble Court."

[–] [email protected] 0 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Really ? I guess you must be right . Or some specific carriers are blocking anyway i don't wanna check by going into one of those sites.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Yeah I didn't wanna check either haha but yes porn sites are blocked by most ISPs afaik

[–] [email protected] 0 points 9 months ago

Was there last month, blocked. 🙃🙃🙃

[–] [email protected] 0 points 9 months ago (5 children)

Really amazes me how our government handles situations like these in the worst ways possible. Really hope the idiots at the top of the ladder get some braincells and see how stupid this whole debacle is

[–] [email protected] 0 points 9 months ago (1 children)

That's assuming the whole thing wasn't manufactured to create an excuse to ban encrypted emails.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 9 months ago

nah that thought crossed my mind too, I wouldn't be surprised if it was for that reason tbh

[–] [email protected] 0 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

But jio aldready blocks all the vpns right so i guess tor or other careers which i am guessing will follow in jio's way and i fucking switched to jio yesterday from airtel 🤦

[–] [email protected] 0 points 9 months ago (1 children)

that sucks, I've never used Jio so I didn't know that. The ISP that I use doesn't really block VPNs so that's good I guess lol

[–] [email protected] 0 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Yeah i am gonna switch back asap any suggestion ?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Airtel or ACT Fibernet would be my suggestion

[–] [email protected] 0 points 9 months ago

I was using an airtel sim but saw a reddit thread about how much of your data airtel collects and switched. And now i am completely fucked by jio

[–] [email protected] 0 points 9 months ago (1 children)

They never will, we have to vote them out.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 9 months ago (1 children)

And whom do we vote in. The congress and the others are full of idiots as well. Unfortunately no smart honest person will go into Indian politics because they know that between the beauracracy and the corruption, there is no way they make an useful change.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I don't know either, but from what I know, bureaucracy and corruption is often a result of bad organizational structure. Some "designated officer" raises a finger which gets approved by the Secretary who is appointed by the minister who is appointed by the PM who is nominated by the Lok Sabha, and we lose yet another privacy protecting service. I think we should have more direct control in these matters.

For now, if we cannot expect a proper functioning web, they cannot expect stability under their seats. Vote them out.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Indeed and as the reply above you mentioned, whom do we vote? If there is a truly good party here, It's either too unknown or too small so I suppose we can just hope for the best

[–] [email protected] 0 points 9 months ago

I'd vote for a purely retaliatory reason. So they know that the support they have isn't as ironclad as they'd assume. But I also have bailed from there so..... ¯_(ツ)_/¯

[–] [email protected] 0 points 9 months ago

You got a start protesting for your right buddy! This is the only way you can fight this oppressive governments! Be strong India!

[–] [email protected] 0 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (2 children)

The block order hasn't been initiated """yet""" but knowing the stance the Indian Government has on encryption as a whole, it's not much to go with.

Say the service does get blocked then the app will be available through F-Droid but the website will most likely be blocked by most ISPs. if any Indian user still wishes to continue using PM if a block order is initiated then they'll most likely have to use a VPN or a proxy server or through Tor. It'll also be possible to access the website if they use a different DNS.

I'm really hoping it doesn't end up being banned but seeing how the Indian government banned VLC a few years ago (unbanned it later on however) for the stupidest reasons possible.... Yeah it doesn't exactly induce much confidence....

[–] [email protected] 0 points 9 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 0 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

Some Chinese hacker group called Cicada was using VLC to distribute malicious code and conduct cyberattacks. After this the website for VLC was blocked from February to November (I can't remember for how long so this timeline might be wrong).

At least that's what the reports says lol, the official reason was never revealed by the Indian Government which is just the cherry on top of this shit cake

[–] [email protected] 0 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

The idiots just made it easier for cicada because people could no longer download the original executable so were downloading it from shady sites where the likelihood of the executable being infected by malicious code is very high. Just like almost everywhere else, the officials here are morons.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 9 months ago (2 children)

I'm pretty sure that most people who are using Proton Mail are technologically savvy enough to bypass whatever half assed measure the government puts in place.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I personally don’t use proton mail, since I don’t really get any e-mails so I just never use any sort of mail app, but what are some easy ways to bypass this?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 9 months ago

By using a VPN. Most have easy to follow guides on setting it up in your home router or mobile device.

I run all of my traffic over a VPN regardless to thwart my ISP from selling my data. Everyone should.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 9 months ago

I agree! But it's still an issue as there are quite a few proton mail users who just wish to achieve a tad bit more privacy and aren't tech savvy. I know some folks like that myself and tbh sometimes all the technical stuff or going through hoops can just be very daunting/overwhelming at times