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[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 months ago

The extreme Indian nationalism in the comments is insane. They will lick any boot that comes to power in their country.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 11 months ago

alternative opinion: LE has become overly reliant on cheap tricks like spying.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago

my school also blocks it, i have to use skiovox and a vpn just to access my personal email

[–] [email protected] 35 points 11 months ago (3 children)

I work for the US government and Proton is blocked at the network level, so I can't check my personal email at work. In that sense, the US has already "banned" it. In what other way could a government "ban" an email provider?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 11 months ago

Well getting it banned at the ISP level comes to mind.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 11 months ago (2 children)

That's odd. I'm surprised they blocked it for you. I also work for the US federal government and I haven't had any issues with using Proton at work. I wonder why the difference.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 11 months ago

Wow, TWO terrorists working in the US governmentβ€½β€½ /s

[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 months ago

It was fine until a few weeks ago. We moved into a new building and something with the network changed. Concurrently we also have to connect via the VPN a different way than we used to. With all of those changes Proton went from not blocked to blocked.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Honestly doing personal tasks on your works network is not a great idea. If anything use wireguard to route your traffic back to your home. (You can flash OpenWRT and set this up)

[–] [email protected] 4 points 11 months ago (1 children)

When I work from home, I can just not connect to the VPN and it's fine. When I'm on site there's no way around it

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago (2 children)

You can't just use a VPN to connect yourself to your home network?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I've had corporate LANs that I couldn't route around to my wireguard servers from even using netmakers turn server stuff which punches through most shitty lans.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 months ago

Yes changed ports, I never went too hard on it as im not usually near an office and just used my hotspot for personal stuff.

Also it's never a good idea to try too hard circumventing corporate "security"

[–] [email protected] 7 points 11 months ago (2 children)

The network blocks Proton.me at the top level. You think they're going to allow a VPN?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 11 months ago

Well I guess it is up to you. If it violates your employers policy then don't do it obviously but you can adjust your VPN to make it hard to differentiate between normal traffic and VPN traffic. It can work in China so it probably can work for you.

If your that concerned about your work don't use your phone or at the very least don't connect to WiFi

[–] [email protected] 6 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Even if they didn't block it is it worth the risk? Sending mystery traffic home over a government network is always gonna be sus.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago

Of course! I can check my email on my phone. It's not a huge deal, just a slight inconvenience.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (2 children)

The government's move is in line with a recent policy that has targeted services with end-to-end encryption. A host of encrypted apps were blocked at the start of last year β€” including the likes of Threema, Element, Wickrme, and Safeswiss β€” and the government is going after WhatsApp to disable end-to-end encryption, although it isn't clear how that would even work.

This is why GPG is still an important and valuable tool. You can use it on litteral anything and not relying on single point of failure. Paired with steganography no one will know the message even existed. Yet, not many are willing to learn nor support this anymore.

Edit: use of more conservative wording Edit 2: correct spelling

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago

Can you recommend anything to learn about GPG?

[–] [email protected] 5 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

The problem with GPG is it is painful to use and draws attention. It would be better to use something like Briar, Session, Simplex Chat or Jami.

(Jami hasn't been audited so be careful)

[–] [email protected] 3 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

GPG is painful. No doubt. But with the pain it gains agility. Any single apps and protocols enables secure communication, being TLS, Tor, GPG or any one you listed, can draw attention. However, apps are more vulnerable. Their traffic pattern can be analysed and block individually while GPG is protocol agnostic. Look how China GFW had block many E2EE apps/protocols.

In today's world, secure communication apps like SimpleX are more in flavor as it is way easier to use. I used them daily as my main communication method. But it's also good to learn GPG as a backup when those apps fails.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 11 months ago

How convenient

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