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[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago

If the god they claim to believe in exists I’m pretty sure it’ll be more angry about leaving than staying

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago

Perkele!

Hateful assholes running the place over there I guess >:| And I used to like that place, despite their best efforts to convince me not to! I'll just pick a different place that uses a language I like. Let's seee.... 👾 🦹 👿 💩🤡 🔍🤔 .... Yeah maybe I should pick a new language to like v.v

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago (1 children)

The minister in charge of these issues is a religious homophobe and the "party" he represents is more like a loose protest coalition of confused conservatives and racists.

Our prime minister "would have liked Finland to join the initiative, but the ministers have the authority in their own cabinets". The racists have our prime minister's balls in a grip, since the government would dissolve if they got offended and decided to leave. And since the current right wing government is the only chance to crush the labour unions' power, prime minister Orpo seems to be more than willing to suffer one humiliation after another to win this prize for the corporate sector.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago (1 children)

That's pretty sad. I thought you guys were better off than America, but it sounds like you've got it just as bad as we do. Sorry bud ._.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago

It's not as bad as the US. We don't have a presidential candidate openly calling for the end of democracy. It has been getting worse. But we're not there yet.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago (3 children)

"As far as Ukraine is concerned, the humanitarian aid side has focused more on the disabled, the elderly and so on. It's a question of focus," the minister said.

That sounds...reasonable?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago

Because it's a lie told to cover up bigotry.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

... It does?

It is backed by the Ukrainian and German governments in particular, with the Ukrainian branch of UN Women playing a key role. Participants in the alliance include the foreign ministries or development agencies of Sweden, Norway, Denmark, Estonia, the United Kingdom and the United States, as well as the EU.

Finnish media outlets have previously reported that issues related to sexual and gender minorities do not progress under Tavio's watch, and that he does not allow any mention of sexual or gender minorities in his speeches.

Sounds like the usual regressive far right bullshit to me, only with an obviously even more transparent excuse this time.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I mean I'm not doubting the minister is a bit of a homophobe but I don't think it's wrong to focus aid on the disabled.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

It's more about, in this case, how he's openly sexist since that's what this alliance seems to be against. But either way that's a classic false binary. There's no reason they cant provide aid for both groups at the same time, it doesn't take away from either group to do that. This wasn't even much additional funding, it was a policy oversight thing who's stated goal decidedly wasn't "care more about women than disabled people".

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago (2 children)

That's true I suppose. His motivation does not appear to be altruistic but if it was a case of diverting limited funds, I can see his excuse not to fund this being reasonable.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago

I can see his excuse not to fund this being reasonable.

"When someone shows you who they are, believe them the first time." -MayaAngelou

I believe you.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

Oh good, so you agree that his excuse is unreasonable then! I'm glad we had this little discussion.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago

Yes, thank you for the polite discourse.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago

Sure... if you ignore the entire rest of the article.