NFC payments also don't work. Non-starter for me
this post was submitted on 18 Sep 2024
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Is it because of your particular bank or is that a general problem?
google wallet in general will not work.
also bank apps utilizing NFC is not a thing in the US
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Can someone give an example of an app that doesn’t work? I always hear about apps that do work, but is it mostly banking or some other category that doesn’t work typically?
Like you said, banking apps. The logic behind that is they use google to security check their apps. A random non-bank example would be the slick deals app. Without play services it would just open then crash.
Many apps use play services for their notification system. So for instance, proton mail works fine but notifications do not.
NFC is not supported, so anything that uses that won't work.
Not an app, but I was surprised that widgets don't work unless you're in the primary profile. Technically they work on any profile, but they randomly get deleted, and frequently. It's a known bug that probably will never get fixed because the source of it comes from stock android.
I will mention that you can have a profile running play services, which gives you access to many apps that wouldnt normally work. And it's sandboxed so it has less impact on your information (I don't know all the specifics but it does limit in some way how much it can snoop into the rest of the OS). Then you can also set up granular controls on your apps to limit them from snooping.
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Anything that uses NFC payments.
Some banking apps allegedly don't work but i have never encountered one. If your bank has a mobile accessible website, it's basically a non-issue.
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Random applications that use the play integrity API won’t work on any third party OSes or ROMs. For example I tried to install some Intuit app on my GOS Pixel a while back (credit karma I think?) and it didn’t work at all
For how long will the older pixel phones be supported? Is it worth it to buy a cheaper older model like pixel 6 and have graphene in it?
Cause I'm not giving more than 200-300 for a phone. I'll stick to cheap android phones that lack nothing compared to expensive phones for my needs.
https://endoflife.date/pixel This is for googles support. GOS may support a specific device a little longer than google but does not promise to and recomends getting a newer device.
Pixel 8a looks real good right now.
Wait what do the android updates have to do with Graphene? Does the phone need to still be supported by Google and android for Graphene to be secure and work?
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5a is EoL so no headphone jack for you. This is a nonstarter for portable devices to me.
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Does android auto work? Last I herd it did not...
It does
Neat.
Well, now I know what my next phone is. Does it work on the latest Pixel or does it have to be a previous version?
It does work on the Pixel 9 Generation and even on the Pixel Fold 9 and Pixel Tab.
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I have the 8 Pro, and my wife has the 7 Pro, so I can confirm it works on those. No idea on the latest generation, but it's likely that it works too.
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Here's a summary of the article and the seven key points mentioned about switching to GrapheneOS:
Summary: The article discusses GrapheneOS, a secure, privacy-focused mobile operating system based on Android. It highlights the benefits of switching to GrapheneOS, its features, compatibility, and user experience. The article also addresses potential concerns and provides information on reverting to standard Android if desired.
The seven things you should know before switching to GrapheneOS:
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Compatibility: Currently only supported on Google Pixel devices (Pixel 3 or newer) due to their strong hardware-based security features.
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App compatibility: Most apps are compatible, but some may require alternatives. A sandboxed version of Google Play can be installed for popular apps.
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User interface: Similar to standard Android, but with enhanced privacy controls and a decluttered, ad-free experience.
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Regular updates: Frequent security updates are provided to protect against the latest threats.
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Community support: A dedicated community of users and developers is available to offer help and tips.
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Reversibility: It's possible to switch back to standard Android if you don't like GrapheneOS.
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Privacy and security features: Includes end-to-end encryption, revocable permissions, randomized MAC addresses, and strict app data access controls.
Thank you for this.
No problems 😄
Ty for the summary ChatGPT
Haha no worries 😅 I always appriciate summarys myself so I thought I would pay it forward
It's a bad joke ✌️
standard android?
you/they mean the OEM operating system right?
Or any other rom, really. Stock, which is the Google version of Android, but the pixel line is well supported by lineage and other variants.
The summary kind of makes it sound like there's a switch in settings and poof! you're back at stock android. But I imagine you need to flash the new ROM and start from scratch.
Right. It's different in that it lacks Google Framework Service, and adds a bunch of privacy controls, like additional quick toggles to control the cameras, and microphone, the way other Android can quick toggle the flashlight and location servcies and bluetooth.
The biggest thing is substantially more granular per app permissions, controlled from a calentral interface in settings.
Yes. You can go back to stock.
My point is that "stock" is not a "standard". If anything GrapheneOS is more standard.
True. It’s close to AOSP. Don’t understand the downvotes.
Its pedantic and distracts from the real conversation happening. I've always considered "stock" to mean how the device ships from the factory (that's how the term is used in the automobile world), whereas I would think it fair to consider AOSP a standard, it's something you can compare other ROMs against.
Regardless of mine or anyone else's opinion, we're just ultimately wanting to talk about how GrapheneOS is much closer to the clean and uncluttered experience AOSP offers
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