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[–] [email protected] 65 points 1 month ago (3 children)

My city had ranked choice voting implemented by Democrats in the 1970s. They elected the first black mayor, who is still one of our most beloved mayors in the city's history, under RCV.

Then Republicans made it illegal at a state level when they had a trifecta. Democrats keep introducing bills at the state level to allow RCV, and Republicans take more and more drastic action against it. So yeah... I want more Democrats in my state government so we can have RCV.

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[–] [email protected] 59 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Right on. Once the republicans have enough of a majority they will deal with all these voting problems.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 month ago (1 children)

There's a "Vote No on Ranked Choice Voting" sign on my way to work.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Someone just needs to paint over the word ‘no’

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

I'm not sure if it's legal to deface political signs like that.

Edit: it's very much not

https://app.leg.wa.gov/rcw/default.aspx?cite=29a.84.040

[–] [email protected] 21 points 1 month ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 57 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Someone's unwillingness to implement an effective solution doesn't make an ineffective solution the answer.

The way forward on this is hounding them until they implement it, not fighting the math:

https://youtu.be/s7tWHJfhiyo

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago (3 children)

if they wont give us what we want or need they dont deserve our votes, maybe next time they will offer more than "im not the other guy", if the democrats will not be pushed left then they should be destroyed.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago

You are correct, but everyone is too afraid to work together to find a better candidate/ new party. We no longer can organize ourselves. We can only be organized by institutions apparently. I'd love to be proven wrong on this but watch how much resistance you get. Just trying to suggest that maybe we could do better. ʕ•ᴥ•ʔ

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[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 month ago (1 children)

If a solution doesn't have a realistic path to implementation, it doesn't matter. The system itself is designed against change, RCV is something neither party actually wants.

Some few Democrats or states are allowed to support it as far as it gives RCV supporters some semblence of power, without actually pressuring the system.

Even if RCV was implemented, and a Third Party candidate won, the 2 establishment parties would work against any radical change.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

It pressures the system in those cities or states, which is actual pressure to the system, just not direct pressure on the federal government. History shows you can mount pressure through local and state changes until it gets overwhelming support on a federal level.

You can make the argument there might be more effective or quicker solutions, but this is unquestionably one path toward it.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 month ago (4 children)

My point is that tiny, inconsequential pressure is allowed so that you think it applies pressure. Whenever it gets close to making a difference, it won't.

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