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I'm curious what the benefits are of paying for SSL certificates vs using a free provider such as letsencrypt.

What exactly are you trusting a cert provider with and what are the security implications? What attack vectors do you open yourself up to when trusting a certificate authority with your websites' certificates?

In what way could it benefit security and/or privacy to utilize a paid service?

And finally, which paid SSL providers are considered trustworthy?

I know Digicert is a big player, but their prices are insane. Comodo seems like a good affordable option, but is it a trustworthy company?

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 week ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

Acronyms, initialisms, abbreviations, contractions, and other phrases which expand to something larger, that I've seen in this thread:

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CA (SSL) Certificate Authority
CF CloudFlare
DNS Domain Name Service/System
HTTP Hypertext Transfer Protocol, the Web
HTTPS HTTP over SSL
IP Internet Protocol
SSL Secure Sockets Layer, for transparent encryption
TLS Transport Layer Security, supersedes SSL
nginx Popular HTTP server

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 week ago

So, the web uses a system called chain of trust. There are public keys stored in your system or browser that are used to validate the public keys given to you by various web sites.

Both letsencrypt and traditional SSL providers work because they have keys on your system in the appropriate place so as to deem them trustworthy.

All that to say, you're always trusting a certificate authority on some level unless you're doing self signed certificates... And then nobody trusts you.

The main advantage to a paid cert authority is a bit more flexibility and a fancier certificate for your website that also perhaps includes the business name.

Realistically... There's not much of a benefit for the average website or even small business.

[–] [email protected] 55 points 1 week ago (15 children)

AFAIK, the only reason not to use Letsencrypt are when you are not able to automate the process to change the certificate.

As the paid certificates are valid for 12 month, you have to change them less often than a letsencrypt certificate.

At work, we pay something like 30-50€ for a certificate for a year. As changing certificates costs, it is more economical to buy a certificate.

But generally, it is best to use letsencrypt when you can automate the process (e.g. with nginx).

As for the question of trust: The process of issuing certificates is done in a way that the certificate authority never has access to your private key. You don't trust the CA with anything (except your payment data maybe).

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Not the only use cases, but you'd need a different service if you need/want wildcard certs, certs that are manually installed and managed, or certs with a longer expiration.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Letsencrypt issues wildcard certificates. This is however more complicated to setup.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I'd say they're actually easier, at least in my experience. Since wildcard certs use DNS-01 verification with an API, you don't need to deal with exposing port 80 directly to the internet.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 week ago (5 children)

Yes, it can be easier. But not every DNS provider allows API access, so you might need to change the provider.

(good luck with that in many enterprise scenarios).

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Whoa, really??? I guess I just assumed nothing changed in the last 5 years. I need to look into that.

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