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[–] [email protected] 11 points 2 months ago

It's okay because as the radiation blasts away at the robots circuitry they'll have to replace it. Then they could just replace it with a better robot every few years as technology improves. It'll become exponentially more powerful. And by the end of it they'll have a superpowered radioactive robot... that they've... used for slave labor... Huh. Maybe they should rethink this plan.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 months ago

didn't this happen like 4 years ago?

[–] [email protected] 45 points 2 months ago (2 children)

This is what we need AI for. Robots that can independantly handle this type of task that is too dangerous for humans.

Fuck the generative garbage we have now. Work on this stuff instead.

[–] [email protected] 24 points 2 months ago (1 children)

But where's the money in that?

[–] [email protected] 16 points 2 months ago

"Our shareholders insist the line must go up!"

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Nobody had a faster robot?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago

Those robots are now stuck within the power plant.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 2 months ago (4 children)

Why don't they use humans like the Soviets? Are they stupid?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 months ago

because putting people in those buildings is sketchy, and the serve almost zero static concern, especially with modern survey robots and technology that allows us to very easily analyze this stuff without having to set foot near it.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Weren't there so old people that volunteered for some cleanup jobs, reasoning they had less life left than you get people so the cancer would not get to them in time.

I think I remember reading something like that.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago

the "liquidators" served about 2 minutes of time doing cleanup service at chernobyl. This was how they mitigated a lot of the radiation risk, the people that suffered the most were the people in nearest proximity, reactor personnel for example.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 months ago

Yeah but that's for much less radioactive areas. These robots are going places that would make a human die badly.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Because they're going to use specialized cranes to pull that shit out and bury it over the next 100 years (special military operation pending). It was installed with the New Safe Confinement. The entire point of the NSC was to protect the site from disturbance and collapse while they waited for it to be safe enough to disassemble the plant.

[–] [email protected] 38 points 2 months ago (1 children)

The Soviets never sent humans into the reactor to remove melted core material. The remains of the Chernobyl No. 4 core are still there inside the sarcophagus, and I don't think anyone was making serious plans to remove them even before the Ukraine war got in the way.

(The job that got so many Soviet workers exposed was moving solid radioactive debris from the exploded core so that the initial containment sarcophagus could be built and the other three reactors on the site restarted. Nothing comparable was required at Fukushima because the explosions there didn't breach any of the cores, thus no chunks of highly radioactive graphite to shovel off the roofs. I understand that the Soviets did try robots, but radiation isn't good for electronics and, well, it was Soviet equipment in 1986—they just weren't very effective.)

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

They actually tried using a West German state of the art police robot but it failed. IIRC it still sits broken on the roof to this day.

[–] [email protected] 113 points 2 months ago (3 children)

It could take a century

Maybe we should chip in and buy a second robot.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago

This is getting out of hand

[–] [email protected] 21 points 2 months ago

It may take a century not because of robot costs, but because the materials haven't decayed enough to store in a dry cask.

[–] [email protected] 56 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Maybe we should chip in and buy a second robot.

Hear me out: three robots.

[–] [email protected] 34 points 2 months ago (1 children)

With more than one, a union can be formed. So, no.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 2 months ago (2 children)

The union would be extremely powerful with just one robot though. There would be no competition or different opinions. If the single robot strikes to get better working conditions or better pay, the entire workforce is on strike.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago

Also that roebuck could probably lift three tons.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 2 months ago (1 children)

yes yes, but the robot cannot strike, you see, because one robot must make the strike motion, another robot must second the strike motion, and then all the robots must vote. if there is no robot to second the strike motion, then no robots may vote, meaning the strike cannot pass.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 months ago

I would like to add to this conversation, "I've talked it over with myself and I've decided I'm going on strike," is an extremely powerful thing to say.

...I didn't promise my addition would be valuable.

[–] [email protected] 65 points 2 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 12 points 2 months ago

Such a fantastic movie, I need to watch it again