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[–] [email protected] 96 points 1 month ago (13 children)

Let's assume the chicken has to reach a temperature of 205C (400F) for us to consider it cooked.

Remind me never to let this guy cook for me.

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[–] [email protected] 28 points 1 month ago (1 children)

To be clear, the slapping would have to be done in one single second to account for heat loss to environment.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago (1 children)

What if you wrap it in a blanket?

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

It's expected there will be some heat loss over time in any scenario, I'm just explaining that the exact numbers to reach 200C chicken (way overcooked) in this very specific example only work if it happens near instantly.

You can still cook it over time, easily, just with different numbers than this example.

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago

I read once that the Mongolian warriors would place raw meat under their saddles and after riding all day would then consume it. Now I'm thinking that's not so far fetched.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago

How can she slap?!?!

Oh, that's how

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 month ago (1 children)

This isn't going to be accurate, it's ignoring a key aspect of the heat that will be generated, friction. When designing materials for prosthetics we have to be aware of how much friction occurs between the material and skin. If the amount of friction is too great, the material can create enough heat to damage tissue.

The formula for the skin friction coefficient is cf=τw12ρeue2, where ρe and ue are the density and longitudinal velocity at the boundary layer's edge.

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 month ago

If you could cook a chicken that fast with one slap, wouldn't it be disintegrated from the force of the blow?

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 month ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 month ago

135,000 slaps!

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago

And what would that do to my hand?

[–] [email protected] 74 points 1 month ago (6 children)

What I learned from this is never let a physics major cook you dinner, unless you want charcoal for chicken (200C !?!)

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 month ago (1 children)

And they didn't defrost it first 🫠

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[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Yeah 60c is done for chicken. That's where meat goes from pink to white. It takes 18 min to kill dangerous food bacteria at that temp.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 month ago

I was gonna say to start laying off when it gets to 165F, I don't think residual heat will help in this case 😁

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (3 children)

The real question is if you slapped hard enough to raise the temperature to 74C (undergrad clearly doesn't cook), what would the temperature of your hand be? And for the engineers: how far up your arm would you have to measure before the temperature returned to normal body temperature? And for the bio/kin/nursing/premed students: how much would need to be amputated?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 month ago

And for the bio/kin/nursing/premed students: how much would need to be amputated?

Hi there! I'm a certified surgeon in my DnD roleplay and I can safely say you've just amputated your own arm at that speed at just below the shoulder!

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 month ago

My hand is a lot smaller than a chicken, so I hope everyone is prepared to have roast my hand as well

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Lol i dont know the math but the speed required to apply that force means theres a sonic boom as well right? Along with the bubblewrap crack of your arm shattering in the process of somehow applying this force/acceleration. I actually wonder if there would be heat before the slap since the distance traveled is so short. Is there enough air between your windup and the chicken?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago

That's like... 4 or 5 times the speed of sound at sea level so... There would be a bit of a boom.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

At 400F it would no longer be a chicken but a pile of glowing cinders. A chicken is cooked at 165F.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Why isn't it a concern what slapping at this speed does to your hand/arm?

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 month ago

Because we are men, and men feel no pain when we slap things.

This is why we slap each other on the back after losses in sports, and why pimpin ain't easy.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 month ago (1 children)

The chicken ran away when I tried to slap it.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago

Geez, you need to freeze it first. Didn't you read the abstract?

[–] [email protected] 50 points 1 month ago (4 children)

Don’t forget, the chicken is frozen, so you also have to take into account the latent heat of fusion to melt the chicken before you can raise the temperature

This calculation also assumes that this is an inelastic collision where all the energy is absorbed into the chicken and not into your hand or into the air as sound or other kinetic energy.

Further the chicken is frozen solid, and, presumably, your hand is not. Of the two objects in this collision that could deform inelasticity and absorb the larger fraction of the energy, my money would be on the 0.4 kg slab of raw meat rather than the 1kg frozen billiard ball.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 1 month ago (1 children)

One must also consider the thermal conduction of the chicken. Slapping it, either once or multiple times, on a single area will impart energy to that area, raising the temperature there, but it will take time for that to disperse throughout the fowl. Thus will inevitably lead to the slapped area/areas being overcooked and the rest being dangerously undercooked. Losses to the environment must additionally be taken into account unless sufficient insulation is employed to mitigate this.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 month ago (2 children)

So would you say that a rotisserie slapping technique would optimal in this scenario?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago

It's optimal for your mom!

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 month ago

That's assuming an isentropic chicken though. You need even more slaps to make up for the heat loss to the environment.

[–] [email protected] 56 points 1 month ago (2 children)

But it only needs to reach 165°F, about 74°C.
Basically every food package says so.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 month ago

This is correct; always cook to temp.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 1 month ago (2 children)
[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago

Now that we’ve discovered how to slap coal into existence, how much force would it take to turn a frozen Butterball into a diamond?

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[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 month ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I'm hungrier because I put so many calories into slapping.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago (1 children)

How many though? Could please someone think of the math? 😭

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 month ago (1 children)

About 132 kcal, if your calorie to chicken heat transfer is 100% efficient.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago (1 children)

For the 23k average slaps or the one with hypersonic speed?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

They work out to the same total amount of energy.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Including acceleration and deceleration? Hm

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[–] [email protected] 44 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

205°C? You're slapping your chicken too long, son. Your mother and I are worried.

[–] [email protected] 112 points 1 month ago (3 children)
[–] [email protected] 20 points 1 month ago

incredible engineering feat !

this will definitely fulfill someone's kink.

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