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[–] [email protected] 8 points 9 months ago

I'm very excited for COSMIC!

[–] [email protected] -5 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Oh, an alpha version, not some revival of SPARC. I know RISC-V laptops are almost a thing, and MIPS is trying to make a comeback. It's not beyond the realm of what's possible.

Certainly it's better than my initial read of System76 doing anything with COSMAC.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 9 months ago

This is about the cosmic desktop environment, not a CPU architecture

[–] [email protected] 8 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (5 children)

Does System76 have right now, or upcoming, any laptops that can match Apple's hardware quality? They seem like Clevo rebrands.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

apple's hardware quality

I laughed. Cheaply made Chinese builds sold at a huge markup to make it look good to rich idiots doesn't mean quality.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

I'm sorry, but I absolutely cannot understand this. Have you held a modern macbook, like a macbook m2 air, in your hands?

I don't like their software a lot, but the hardware is top of the industry in almost every way after they released their own CPUs. For what you get, they are cheap.

Before Apple Silicon they were more meh, though.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 9 months ago

What's wrong with clevo rebrands?

[–] [email protected] 5 points 9 months ago

They plan on starting to make their own laptops but there aren’t many details available. https://www.tomshardware.com/news/system76-shows-off-first-images-of-its-virgo-linux-laptop-design

[–] [email protected] 18 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

They have been working on a fully in-house open source laptop for some time but I don't know the ETA on it.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 9 months ago (1 children)

As far as I know, all the so called Linux laptops are rebranded white label products from China

[–] [email protected] 10 points 9 months ago (2 children)

Starlabs is not AFAIK, same with PINE

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Starlabs laptops are great. I can't wait to see a review of thestarfighters laptop!

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I hear the battery life is poor but not sure.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago

I get ~8 hours on my starbook MkVI, with Bluetooth disabled.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)
[–] [email protected] 10 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

Will Debian users be able to use Cosmic's tiling manager?

[–] [email protected] 8 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Eventually, yes. It may be faster available if you contribute on maintaining the packages, though.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (2 children)

How do I do that?

I'm relatively new to linux but I have some experience with Java and Python

[–] [email protected] 3 points 9 months ago

Packaging doesn't usually require programming knowledge. Usually just a little bit of bash and reading the documentation.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 9 months ago

Should be straight forward. If you willing to do all the work, the Debian community should be very welcoming

https://www.debian.org/intro/help

[–] [email protected] 38 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Gonna be off topic but how the fuck is fedi getting more traction on this over reddit.

I guess all Foss degens are banned there too haha

[–] [email protected] 13 points 9 months ago

the foss people are probably the people who migrated to the fedi first

[–] [email protected] 17 points 9 months ago

Really loving the new changes! Can't wait to see try the alpha out

[–] [email protected] 3 points 9 months ago (1 children)

i tried recently compiling the epoch build on machine, but it didn't start. maybe because of my nvidia card. nevertheless i'll be installing this as soon as it hits the arch repos!

[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 months ago

Yeah I had trouble building it on Arch. Something went wrong with a particular dependency, but I forget which. I'll give it another try soon, since I'm incredibly eager to experience the newer changes.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 9 months ago (3 children)

Progress looks nice! Not a big fan of how the osd and tabs look, but everything else is quite nice

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago

I feel like OSDs would look much better with some background transperancy which they added to the terminal couple days ago. So I would hope it gets added to OSDs soon as well

[–] [email protected] 3 points 9 months ago

They build a desktop toolkit which can be used for many others, with way different styles. Budgie thought about that but abandoned the idea afaik.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 9 months ago (2 children)

I think the osd looks good but yeah the tabs are kinda ugly tbh

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago

They would look better if they added padding and switch from border color to state based background color. But if they did that, they would have to rework their design system. Too much work. I bet they tackle that much farther into it's life cycle.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 9 months ago

To be fair I've never seen window tabs on a twm that look good

[–] [email protected] 9 points 9 months ago (2 children)

They want to have a release by 24.04 LTS? that's pretty ambitious

[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I tried COSMIC just two weeks ago and it is incredibly buggy. Like, I crashed the whole desktop twice in 15 minutes.

My prediction is that they will build an amazing DE, and it will take way longer than they anticipated.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Its not even alpha yet, of course it'll be buggy

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago

sure! I'm not complaining, just saying that I predict it will take longer to complete than they anticipate

[–] [email protected] 13 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

[...] we [...] work towards an eventual 24.04 release over the summer.

If all goes well, we can release the alpha by the end of March.

https://blog.system76.com/post/cosmic-the-road-to-alpha

[–] [email protected] 8 points 9 months ago

I'm a little excited, not gonna lie. I really liked their take on Gnome.