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[–] [email protected] 34 points 4 months ago (3 children)

Statistically insignificant compared to xyz

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[–] [email protected] 81 points 4 months ago (31 children)

My opinion is that these shootings are a greater failure in this country than simply gun control. There is a LOT we need to work on to decrease mass shootings. While I admit, I am more on the personal responsibility side of the gun control debate, I am not against well thought through legislation. I don't think that most of the proposals for gun control are rational, detailed, and written with an even cursory understanding of firearms.

To start to address mass shootings, I believe that we need to expand our healthcare in this country. Both physical and mental healthcare. If people are physically well, and can get treatment that doesn't threaten to bankrupt them, then they will have more opportunities to develop better coping mechanisms. They will be able to seek healthcare options and not feel like they are left to fend for themselves. The isolation from a society that doesn't care or help them is detrimental, and while I have no studies to back it up, I would think that a society with a healthcare system thats prerogative is the patient instead of profit would help.

I think the aspect of mental healthcare speaks for itself. So people don't lash out and can seek other means of dealing with issues. I also believe that the stigma of seeking mental healthcare and it's ability to impact people's rights and job prospects is a hindrance. We should not make it so that if someone seems help, that they are punished for it.

I believe we have a big culture shift that needs to occur. Too much do we use rhetoric that reinforces that firearms and gun violence is the ultimate solution to a disagreement. "Fuck around and find out" when used in the context of firearms is terrible. Firearms should be considered the last resort to protect life. Not property and not your feelings.

Firearms are not conflict resolution! We need to work to give people better ways of solving and deescalating conflicts.

We need to work on our wealth disparity. We should be elevating our poorest so that they don't have to resort to violence or crime. As most firearm crimes are not mass shootings, we need to address the other parts of firearm use.

We need to work on our community involvement. Bring people together, break down the walls between us, and get past the cliques.

There is a lot we need to do, but gun control is only a small piece of solving gun violence.

[–] [email protected] 26 points 4 months ago (11 children)

Addition:

Stop the 24 hour news cycle and please please please stop naming criminals by name and showing their faces. Delete the "claim to fame" angle that comes with horrible crimes.

For community involvement, what comes to mind for me is: walkable neighbourhoods, libraries even in small towns and local sports clubs.

But there must be a minimum of gun laws: Buying, owning, operating only under license, storage at home in a safe and ammunition in a separate safe. That's really the bare minimum.

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[–] [email protected] 22 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (11 children)

universal healthcare and basic income, paid with increase in the top 1%'s marginal tax rate, would solve a LOT of Americans problems.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 months ago

That's along the lines of what I was thinking. Making care more available is good but still having to get financially destroyed for it potentially isn't a great incentive to use services

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Can you imagine nukes being considered a conflict resolution?

Technically, they are.

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[–] [email protected] 23 points 4 months ago (1 children)

If it was a mental issue, the ruzzians would have a psychiatrist glued to the top of their murder tanks. And no, we don't want a steel tent around each kid to provide them safety. Just don't sell guns to regular stupid people. Wanna own one? Get educated in it's use first. Understand what it's for and keep it safely locked away from kids. The way kids get guns is thru failures in all these safety nets. I frankly don't trust other parents. If a gun was something that only affected you the owner personally, I wouldn't give a hoot. If it sometimes affected others, well then you need a license and insurance. But I mean, if live next door or upstairs, you can have an accident and I end up dead. So I would think 🤔 hmm this needs heavy regulation. To fucking fly a drone you need a license! WTF!

[–] [email protected] 10 points 4 months ago (1 children)

You do know this line is about mass shootings in general and not just school shootings, and that

A vast majority of guns used in 19 recent mass shootings were bought legally and with a federal background check. At least nine gunmen had criminal histories or documented mental health problems that did not prevent them from obtaining their weapons.

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2015/10/03/us/how-mass-shooters-got-their-guns.html

And that article is from 2018 and the shootings have only become more frequent

[–] [email protected] 6 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Well, I'm sorry, please don't shoot me?

[–] [email protected] 8 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (8 children)

This makes it seem like most of the shooters are mentally ill. This is not true. The large majority are not, and most of those who are, have general depression. When looking over the online communications, writings, and discussing the factors with the surviving shooters, one thing becomes clear. They are terrorists. They are ideologically driven, their intent is to create terror, in a reaction to the things they are ideologically against.

Here are just a couple of links on the subject:

https://www.columbiapsychiatry.org/news/mass-shootings-and-mental-illness

https://psycnet.apa.org/record/2021-13575-001

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[–] [email protected] 29 points 4 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 26 points 4 months ago

Mine was reversed

[–] [email protected] 33 points 4 months ago

Wouah this is some seriously hard hitting meme content.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 4 months ago

We know we've been through this a lot because the meme had also went through a lot of reposts.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 months ago

Was there another shooting? It didn't even make it to the headline here...

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